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Phyl

06-21-2005, 09:35 PM Post subject: Stat help 5/10

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My last 10k hands at 5/10 have gone pretty badly, mostly because I was running bad but I'm worried that I may have a case of the suck. So here are all the relevant stats I think. I want some tough love so be brutally honest.

My concerns:

PFR and attempt to steal seem a bit high, am I too LAG preflop?
My folded SB and BB to steal stats look bad, defend more? Keep in mind that the SB is $2.
Most people have a went to SD of about 32-34% am I missing out?

Please comment on any other problems you see.

Cheers.

Edit: I have no idea why I'm looser and more aggressive in the CO than on the button. Wierd.

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TylerK

06-21-2005, 09:45 PM

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Are you folding the river for one bet too often? Your folded to river bet stat seems just a bit high, and your WTSD seems a bit low.

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Nehmer

06-21-2005, 11:02 PM

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This might just be me being weak, but your PFR from the blinds(especially the SB) looks to be too high for my liking. Considering you have bad position, I don't know why you would wanna be making raises here that won't drive anybody out with any marginal hands. Your PFR stats for other positions look pretty good. 18.23 is definately pretty high from position 1, but that could easily be caused just by a good run of starting hands in a sample size that small. I wouldn't worry about WTSD, in full ring games this month my WTSD is only 30.76 and your W$atSD looks fine and I think that is the important stat.

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06-22-2005, 02:45 AM

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Your stats look good. Better table selection would help you out a lot.

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06-22-2005, 06:19 AM

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Nehmer… the Raise from SB % is higher due to more blind wars... looks good, bettor table selection and position might help a ton…

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Phyl

06-22-2005, 06:14 PM

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As pokerfanatic said my high SB PFR is probably to do with how often everyone folds and I can open-raise a wide range. Not too sure why my BB PFR is so much higher than the EP positions but I'd guess it's because I get to act after everyone else so I have a better idea of how strong they are.

Thanks for the responses guys, as a few of you suggested I'm gonna work on table/seat selection.

Nehmer

06-22-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerfanatic01

Nehmer… the Raise from SB % is higher due to more blind wars... looks good, bettor table selection and position might help a ton…

That isn't true, because his raise first in from SB isn't any higher than mine, but his overall PFR from SB is much higher than mine. Again, probably just me being weak, but it's definately not because of blind wars

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06-24-2005, 07:41 AM

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Why are you playing more than twice as many hands in UTG+1 as UTG?

My VP$ from SB is much higher. This may be sample size, but any 2 cards that can make a straight flush are usually good for half a bet.

Your Saw flop not a blind seems low compared to your VP$IP...
Also your limp/call reraise is 0%? That would be a leak, I think. There are times when pot odds dictate that you should call even when you think you are beat. (I know you know this) The higher suited connectors are a great example of a hand that is a limp but can stand a reraise in a multiway pot.

Your blind defense W$SD from SB is 100%. That is way too high. (small sample size, but you should maybe call down a bit more.)

Can you give me an example of when it would be correct to check raise on the flop after you raised pre flop? If you are against an agressive opponent, just bet and hope that he raises so you can 3 bet.

Why would you bet the river, then fold? (2.92%)
If you are willing to fold to a raise on the river, it may be better to check and hope to induce a bluff. Or are these failed bluff attempts?

Folded to a river bet is also high. Depends on how many missed draws you have over 10K hands.

You check raise the river too much, IMO. The river is a very straight forward street. I think you may be missing bets.

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06-25-2005, 12:17 AM

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Also your limp/call reraise is 0%? That would be a leak, I think. There are times when pot odds dictate that you should call even when you think you are beat. (I know you know this) The higher suited connectors are a great example of a hand that is a limp but can stand a reraise in a multiway pot.

Disregard this. I haven't done this lately either. The point I guess is, you should not be limping in a position where it is likely that there would be a raise and reraise behind you.
The only time I could see this happening is with a hand like QJs or 88.
That just proves I don't effectively utilize poker tracker. I misunderstood the stat.

Also why are you cold calling so much more often on the button?

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Phyl

06-25-2005, 11:00 AM

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Thanks for the analysis.

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I'm pretty sure that stat measures how often I limp in and then re-raise when it comes back to me raised. It definately doesn't mean how often I limp in and then fold for two more because I nearly always call with pocket pairs in that situation.

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Also why are you cold calling so much more often on the button?

I'll often cold call small pocket pairs and such on the button because I get to see how many people are going to see the flop and it's less likely to get 3-bet behind me. It's harder to cold call with a small pocket pair in EP because you can't be sure enough people will call to make it +EV and there's the rest of the table left to act that could 3-bet.

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Why are you playing more than twice as many hands in UTG+1 as UTG?

I'm not, my VPIP from UTG is 14 and for UTG+1 it's 13. Strange but probably caused my an insufficient sample size, same for the CO/Button wierdness.

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My VP$ from SB is much higher. This may be sample size, but any 2 cards that can make a straight flush are usually good for half a bet.

It's slightly more than half a bet for 5/10, the SB is $2 and the BB is $5 this makes it harder to call with suited junk. Still I agree it's a bit low.

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Why would you bet the river, then fold? (2.92%)
If you are willing to fold to a raise on the river, it may be better to check and hope to induce a bluff. Or are these failed bluff attempts?

It depends on the opponent. If I'm against someone who will only bet/raise a better hand but is likley to call with a worse one then bet/fold is the best line. Against a loose passive player bet/fold is better than check/call even if means putting in one bet and not seeing showdown.

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Can you give me an example of when it would be correct to check raise on the flop after you raised pre flop? If you are against an agressive opponent, just bet and hope that he raises so you can 3 bet.

Wierd, I can't remember ever doing that. Is there any kind of PT filter I can run to find these hands?

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