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Dave Davis
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01-28-2007, 03:39 PM
Post subject: SSH preflop recommendations - a lot of coldcalling??????
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Hi! I am a beginner at limit hold'em. I play NL now and I decided to try a little limit. For a joke (and also for making some money, of course). I picked up SSH and realized that strategies there involve a lot of coldcalling which everyone say that is generally a big sin. He recommends coldcalling in EP with AJs and KQs for example while he says coldcalling is generally a mistake.
So I am a little confused here. Most of you, guys, probably read it so can anyone explain this, please?
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KoRnholio
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Cold-calling isn't all bad. In the loose-passive games that SSH is written for, cold calling with a hand like KQs/AJs will often make a big multiway pot since it will induce others to cold call as well.
Even in tougher games, cold calling isn't all bad. Say a pretty tight player raises from early position and his range is likely AQ+/10's+. All fold around to you in the cutoff seat and you have pocket 9's or 10's. Instead of 3betting and isolating against a possible dominating hand (in the case he has a big pp, which is quite often) you just call with position and take a flop.
If the flop comes ugly like AQx then you can fold with a very clear conscious. If it comes rags you might be able to make some money from the A-high hands he would continue playing with.
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Dave Davis
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But why everyone hate coldcalls then and say it is a bad play?
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bigspenda73
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SSH says the opportunity to cold call (AJs,ATs,KQs) arises every 500 hands or so. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just make sure you aren't openlimping.
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Dave Davis
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He advises a lot of open limping too. Look at his chart which shows how to play. It confuses me. I didn't know open limping is so bad.
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bigspenda73
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Open limping is fine is loose passive games where multiple players are seeing flops. That generally does not happen much in the online games anymore as FR Limit has turned into rock gardens.
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Xioustic
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Generally speaking, I raise everything that I play out of early position because my range is so tight (the exception being suited face cards like KJs, which I'll limp). Middle position has some more marginal limps (98s and higher), late position has more suited connector limps, and blinds I'm just about limping or better with any two cards that can make a high straight or flush and suited connectors.
Your limps in the later positions (MP and LP) should be based on the strength of your cards and the number of players that have already limped into the pot. For example, I'm not calling in late position with 98s unless there's 3 people in the pot already.
Anyway, you should know most of this if you read SSH. The point of cold calling? If you get a lot of other limpers and you cold call with your suited connectors and hit your flush, straight, or straight flush, you're more than likely going to win the pot (which is large because of the limpers) outright or by the river. The cold calling wouldn't be worth it without the limpers cash in the middle as the pot wouldn't be large enough to compensate for all the other times you didn't catch your draw.
In tighter games with no limpers, it doesn't become ideal to cold call with much because you won't get paid off as well as you would with more than 2 people in the pot. That's where you get tight and raise with everything you come in with.
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