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Old 08-20-2008, 05:58 PM     Post subject: spots for river bluffs... #1 (permalink)  
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let's try to add some hands to this as time goes...

READ: villains are trending passive, but i havent been to the table long. i felt i was too strong to c/f river the way the action went. so i figured if i wasnt going to fold to a single bet, a b/f line would be best since the scare card hit. that heart should give me some more FE against a Q or weak 2pr hands. decent spot for a river bluff vs typical micro players? (i know reads are important here, but i am asking for a generic answer to help me pick some spots. i will take reads from there. for now, we are just trying to identify potential spots.)

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Stacks:
UTG ($3.88)
UTG+1 ($2.18)
Hero ($1.93)
MP1 ($1.60)
MP2 ($2.96)
MP3 ($1.93)
CO ($3.18)
BTN ($0.58)
SB ($1.36)
BB ($1.53)

Pre-flop: (1.4 SB, 10 players) Hero is UTG+2
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 3-bets, 4 folds, UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls

Flop: (14.4 SB, 4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, 1 fold, MP3 calls, Hero calls

Turn: (8.7 BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks

River: (8.7 BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, MP3 3-bets, Hero folds, MP1 calls
LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
 
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Old 08-20-2008, 07:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Your flop play is questionable but we'll get back to that later.

Really what are you trying to fold out with the river bet that has you beat? KQ is not folding i don't think.

I check and think long and hard about calling if the last player to act bets. If it's bet and called or raised behind me I fold faster than momma on laundry day.
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Old 08-20-2008, 09:46 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 raise the floppppppppp

the 3bettor obv has AK/AQ so just give up on the river
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Old 08-21-2008, 02:57 AM #4 (permalink)  
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yeah, I decree this river bluff unbettable.

The bigger the pot, and the scarier the river card to your opponents the more likely you should be to bet. Sadly this river card is a momentous card to the 3-better.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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 Agreed, terrible spot to bluff. Even heads up I wouldn't bet it after he checks behind on the turn. What could he 3bet preflop, cbet, then check behind with that we are ahead of (on the turn)? 88? AK? AQ? All of them beat us now and will call getting huge odds.
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Old 08-21-2008, 03:14 AM #6 (permalink)  
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errr check/call river
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Old 08-21-2008, 03:24 AM #7 (permalink)  
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errr check/fold river
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Old 08-21-2008, 07:16 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Be pissed you didn't take the lead on the flop, let them get there, basically for free, and vomit (a little) in your mouth, as you muck the river!
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:32 PM #9 (permalink)  
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well, that one pretty much sucked worse than i thought. so, anyone care to show some GOOD spots for one?
LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

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errr check/fold river
fyp
Well, call for 1 bet, fold for 2
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:43 AM #11 (permalink)  
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errr check/fold river
fyp
Well, call for 1 bet, fold for 2
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fold for 1

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oh, 4-straight board?

lulz
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:41 AM #13 (permalink)  
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well, that one pretty much sucked worse than i thought. so, anyone care to show some GOOD spots for one?
Everytime you semibluff raise the turn and miss.
Another good one is when you raise PF, say KQo, flop comes ragged, u c-bet and get called, turn is another brick, so u check behind, and river brings an A, if villain checks, u should bet
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