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Old 01-27-2007, 12:11 AM     Post subject: Sorry guys keep thinking of new questions #1 (permalink)  

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Any here is my conundrum. I am a winner with A/9 off and A/8 off yet i am a big looser with A/10 off. What the heck is going on. Perhaps i play A/10 to strongly preflop or maybe it in positions that it ought not be played from. As it is i raise from each and every position but only call raises from LP. Personally for me the hand only shows a profit from the button-6 off the button. It averages - almost a 3rd blind from 7-9. Should Is this hand no good from Ep. I basically play the hand similar to AJ off yet AJ is a big winner for me. I have over 100 samples of each hand. Is that enough for me to say AJ good A/10 bad?
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Old 01-27-2007, 05:45 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 The problem with ATo is that Any AA, AK, AQ, and AJ are ahead and with 4 cards on board not hitting your A they are 50% to hit any of the 8 kickers under yours. Your probably doing exactly as you say, over playing AT and not A9 or A8. Remember even with AJ you only beat less than 50% of Ax hands, when both hitting the A.
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:00 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Old 01-27-2007, 06:22 PM #4 (permalink)  

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 should i keep raising A/10 from early position. Or should i stick to middle position and later?
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:05 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 100 hands isn't enough

What would be helpful is pull up your A9, AT hands and see why you're loosing/winning

Interesting point TJ, never considered that
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:03 AM #6 (permalink)  

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 Ok here are my A10 off stats
hands=155
vpip=87.5
cold call=3.23
win %=30.97
won $ wsf=29.13
net amount=-43.16 bb
diff wo blinds=13.41
bb per hand= -.56
went to showdown=40.16
sd win=39.22
pfr=59.2
raise first in =30.97
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Old 01-28-2007, 11:27 AM #7 (permalink)  
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What's your preflop/postflop line?

ATo I'm raising first in from middle position or better with the intent of raising the flop no matter what. Play depends on action afterward.

If it's raised at ALL preflop before it hits me I fold.

Limping if I'm not first in MP or better. Naturally making an unfortunate call if it's raised after I call (probably against ace w/ better kicker or a PP) and everyone else calls. Hoping to hit two-pair or a straight draw against two or three players, hoping for TPTK against two or less.

Should be noted that I'm 1BB/hand to 2BB/hand with this hand from the Button/CO. Just about break-even in middle position.
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 How do i upload and post a screen capture? I would like to post a screen capture of all my A10 pf details.
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Old 01-28-2007, 04:16 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 100 hands isn't enough for stats!!!

find your big winners and big losers. Look at your post-flop play. This is where you win/lose money. Leaks likely won't show up in stats if even if you had 1k hands of AT, but a leak may be identifiable in one HH.
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How do i upload and post a screen capture? I would like to post a screen capture of all my A10 pf details.
http://www.imageshack.us/ open an account here.
Then, just click "print screen" on your keyboard, open microsoft "paint" and click "paste", then cut and paste the image you want. Save as "<pick a name>. JPEG"(not .BMP) and browse from image shack. Upload and copy paste the link to "forums" in the reply box.

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Old 01-28-2007, 10:34 PM #11 (permalink)  

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How do i upload and post a screen capture? I would like to post a screen capture of all my A10 pf details.
http://www.imageshack.us/ open an account here.
Then, just click "print screen" on your keyboard, open microsoft "paint" and click "paste", then cut and paste the image you want. Save as "<pick a name>. JPEG"(not .BMP) and browse from image shack. Upload and copy paste the link to "forums" in the reply box.

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Ok i must be doing something wrong. I am useing the 5 clicks program. I selected the image and then i selected to save image and it saved as a .jpg file. Then i made an image shack account but when i try to upload the image it says unable to retrieve preferences. Also i am confussed when you say to print screen i do not want to print a physical copy of the screen out.
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:44 PM #12 (permalink)  

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Old 01-28-2007, 10:47 PM #13 (permalink)  

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 sorry it did not look anywhere near that small and blurred on my computer screen when i viewed it in ms paint. Not sure what happened.
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 click on the pic again...

VPIP should not be 100% UTG/UTG+1, you probably cold-call too much from the button. Raise/fold
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Old 01-29-2007, 12:17 AM #16 (permalink)  

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 I pasted the link directly to the actual picture but it just put a link and not the actual picture.
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 ^^ I keep clicking on this thread expecting there to be content and keep being disappointed...
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:19 AM #18 (permalink)  

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 OK i will post a few A10 hands for you guys to review. Also i guess i became an idiot over the past few weeks as i suddenly can not get the converter to work. What you will see below is exactly what i am pasting into the converter but i still get an unreconized format error.

Hand #37040355-71220 at San Antonio ($.25/$.50 Hold'em)
Starte

scottyd27 is at seat 0with $21.30.
JonAfon is at seat 1 with $10.75.
Oursbrun is at seat 2 with $30.50.
drfisch is at seat 3 with $17.95.
9spot is at seat 4 with $13.50.
CHRA is at seat 5 with $37.
littleogre is at seat 6 with $6.
d_rock81 is at seat 7 with $20.60.
Rebel_Brad is at seat 8 with $11.75.
M3731 is at seat 9 with $16.40.
The button is at seat 1.

Oursbrun posts the small blind of $.10.
drfisch posts the big blind of $.25.

scottyd27: -- --
JonAfon: -- --
Oursbrun: -- --
drfisch: -- --
9spot: -- --
CHRA: -- --
littleogre: Ah Ts
d_rock81: -- --
Rebel_Brad: -- --
M3731: -- --

Pre-flop:

9spot folds. CHRA folds. littleogre raises to $.50.
d_rock81 folds. Rebel_Brad calls. M3731 folds.
scottyd27 calls. JonAfon calls. Oursbrun folds.
drfisch folds.

Flop (board: 3s Kh Th):

littleogre bets $.25. Rebel_Brad calls. scottyd27
calls. JonAfon raises to $.50. littleogre calls.
Rebel_Brad calls. scottyd27 calls.

Turn (board: 3s Kh Th 5s):

littleogre checks. Rebel_Brad checks. scottyd27
checks. JonAfon bets $.50. littleogre folds.
Rebel_Brad calls. scottyd27 calls.

River (board: 3s Kh Th 5s Ad):

Rebel_Brad checks. scottyd27 checks. JonAfon be
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:50 PM #19 (permalink)  
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Old 01-29-2007, 05:24 PM #21 (permalink)  
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crap, I just realized this was the limit forum I'll be going now...
Yes! I was waiting for you to realize this. Thought I'd let it keep going until you bashed a minraise in a HH.

Ogre, seriously, play 1k AT hands and then talk to us. I like the fold in the first HH you showed.
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crap, I just realized this was the limit forum I'll be going now...
Yes! I was waiting for you to realize this. Thought I'd let it keep going until you bashed a minraise in a HH.

Ogre, seriously, play 1k AT hands and then talk to us. I like the fold in the first HH you showed.
That is pretty much my standard play when A/10 hits a non TP. I bet then if raised call and fold to any aggression on subsuquent streets if i do not improve. I will sometimes check call the turn and river if i am heads up versus an aggressive opponent.
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Without the converter I'm not counting the bets -- but against a lot of opponents you can fold that flop in small pots.
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crap, I just realized this was the limit forum I'll be going now...
Yes! I was waiting for you to realize this. Thought I'd let it keep going until you bashed a minraise in a HH.
oh, I started writing it and got to the third bullet point (I was making a list because it was so bad) before it dawned on me.

1) don't min-raise pre-flop
2) don't open ATo in EP (may still be true)
3) I don't like folding turn getting 5:1 (this is where I figured it out)

except each bullet point was a paragraph with reasoning.

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