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Old 05-21-2005, 03:54 PM     Post subject: Sometimes you need hands like these to make your day. #1 (permalink)  
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Paradise Poker 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 7.
2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q, 3, 7 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, SB folds.

River: (9.50 BB) 8 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

Results in white below:
BB has Ad Ah (one pair, aces).
Hero has 8s 7s (two pair, eights and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.50 BB.

And the very next hand...

Paradise Poker 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with T, T.
1 fold, Hero raises, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 4, 6, 8 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (6.16 BB) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 6.16 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ts Th (one pair, tens).
Button has Kd 9c (high card, king).
Outcome: Hero wins 6.16 BB.
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Old 05-21-2005, 04:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 I think you really need to raise or fold the flop.

Hand 2, why no river bet?
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Hand 1 - Once BB bet the flop I was almost positive he had AQ, KK or AA. Slight possibility of AK meant I was gonna show down unless a K or A hit. Do you really advocate a raise on the flop when you think you are beat?

Hand 2 - Cuz I'm a big weenie. I sensed slow play and didnt want to bite on the river. In the end I don't think it really mattered. He wasn't gonna call a bet anyways. Then again, the guy did coldcall a raise preflop with 9K os and called both the flop and turn as well, so... you never know.
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Hand 1 - Once BB bet the flop I was almost positive he had AQ, KK or AA. Slight possibility of AK meant I was gonna show down unless a K or A hit. Do you really advocate a raise on the flop when you think you are beat?
No, I'd advocate a fold. But if you're going to call, you might as well raise.
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Old 05-21-2005, 11:43 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Don't cap pre-flop, once he 3-bets he means buisness.
Hand 2: Bet the river.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 05-22-2005, 04:16 AM #6 (permalink)  
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So, on hand one I truely do not understand why a preflop raise (then capping it off none the less) with 8 7 s on the button is proper. All that I have read tells me that low sooted connectors want to limp in cheap (odds like 10:1 or so that a strt or flush will hit).

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Old 05-22-2005, 04:21 AM #7 (permalink)  
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So, on hand one I truely do not understand why a preflop raise (then capping it off none the less) with 8 7 s on the button is proper. All that I have read tells me that low sooted connectors want to limp in cheap (odds like 10:1 or so that a strt or flush will hit).
Because he's stealing the blinds and expects to often win either without showdown or with a pretty weak hand. I agree that the cap sucks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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Old 05-22-2005, 06:13 AM #8 (permalink)  
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The PF cap is strange but beyond that the whole hand played out strange. Once you know it's 3-way on a 3-bet I think you have to call it instead of raise...You hit your pair and called it down to improve on the river no harm but -EV play PF
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I played both hand one and hand two like absolute crap. Absolutely no reason to cap pre-flop on hand one - just being a dumbass. Absolutely no reason not to bet the river on hand two - just being a puss.

Hence the title - Sometimes you need hands like these to make your day. I showed both hands - people thought I was a total dumbass, and I ended up winning over 20BB in less than an hour.
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