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KoRnholio

09-09-2005, 03:49 AM Post subject: Sometimes people amaze me

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Here's why you don't call 4 bets cold when you know you are way way behind..

FullTiltPoker Game #212006378: Table Living Desert - $2/$4 - Limit Hold'em - 23:42:06 ET - 2005/09/08
Seat 1: John_Galt65 ($42)
Seat 2: ArghMatey ($106)
Seat 3: AF0809 ($88)
Seat 4: Dooper3 ($136.50)
Seat 5: DementedJP ($54)
Seat 6: cbusbuki ($102)
Seat 7: MATTZOMB ($133)
Seat 8: oBtUsE ($16)
Seat 9: aggiegolfer ($137.50)
John_Galt65 posts the small blind of $1
ArghMatey posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MATTZOMB [Qs Qh]
AF0809 raises to $4
Dooper3 raises to $6
DementedJP folds
cbusbuki folds
MATTZOMB raises to $8
oBtUsE folds
oBtUsE is sitting out
aggiegolfer calls $8
John_Galt65 folds
ArghMatey folds
AF0809: do i have to call?
AF0809 has 15 seconds left to act
AF0809 calls $4
Dooper3 calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Jc 4s Kc]
AF0809: getign 8:1?
AF0809 checks
Dooper3 bets $2
MATTZOMB raises to $4
aggiegolfer raises to $6
AF0809 has 15 seconds left to act
AF0809 folds
Dooper3 raises to $8
MATTZOMB folds
aggiegolfer calls $2
*** TURN *** [Jc 4s Kc] [9s]
Dooper3 bets $4
aggiegolfer raises to $8
Dooper3 raises to $12
aggiegolfer calls $4
*** RIVER *** [Jc 4s Kc 9s] [6h]
Dooper3 bets $4
AF0809: great pot
aggiegolfer has 15 seconds left to act
aggiegolfer: is my set no good?
aggiegolfer raises to $8
Dooper3 raises to $12
aggiegolfer calls $4
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Dooper3 shows [Ks Kd] (three of a kind, Kings)
aggiegolfer shows [4h 4d] (three of a kind, Fours)
Dooper3 wins the pot ($100) with three of a kind, Kings
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $103 | Rake $3

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09-09-2005, 03:57 AM

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too bad no one had QT with these 2

jmontis

09-09-2005, 03:59 AM

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edit: nvm, i thought you made the 4-bet call

take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately

outphase

09-09-2005, 04:06 AM

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wow, the only time i've ever seen anyone cold call a cap is in the loose 4/8 game i stopped playing in at Oklahoma.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lambchopdc

Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.

KoRnholio

09-09-2005, 04:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jmontis

edit: nvm, i thought you made the 4-bet call

I don't know what I would have done if it was capped before it got to me and I had QQ. That table was relatively aggressive, so I probably would have called and hoped for no overcards and check out the action in front of me :P

Rondavu

09-09-2005, 12:47 PM

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At least he had a pair. I regularly see people cold calling 3 with junk like 95 offsuit

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Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.

dalecooper

09-09-2005, 03:26 PM

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At 1/2 and 2/4 I've seen people call two or three bets cold with absolute shit. And I mean, routinely, out of position, and for no reason whatsoever. Last night at 1/2 I saw a guy open-limp from early position, then call two raises (everyone but the two raisers had folded)... then he check/called the flop of K94... and check-raised the turn when another nine hit. He held: 92 suited. Now that's POWER POKER.

pokerfanatic

09-09-2005, 03:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dalecooper

What like this?

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: pkrfanatic is SB with Q

, Q

. CO posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 raises, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, pkrfanatic 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP3 caps, CO calls, Button calls, pkrfanatic calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (22 SB) A

, 3

, 4

(5 players)
pkrfanatic checks, UTG+1 bets, MP3 raises, CO 3-bets, Button calls, pkrfanatic folds, UTG+1 calls, MP3 caps, CO calls, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (19 BB) 2

(4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets, CO raises, Button folds, UTG+1 calls, MP3 3-bets, CO caps, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (31 BB) 5

(3 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 34 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has 7c 6c (straight, seven high).
MP3 has As Kd (straight, five high).
CO has 2d 5d (straight, five high).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 34 BB.

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dalecooper

09-09-2005, 04:19 PM

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Hahahaha. I don't know what I love most - CO calling all those raises with absolute shit and catching a miracle flop, or UTG+1 rivering him with the gutshot (at least he had a playable hand and a flush draw, though).

STIdrivr

09-09-2005, 06:33 PM

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pokerfanatico where did u get that picture?

Fnord

09-09-2005, 07:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by outphase

wow, the only time i've ever seen anyone cold call a cap is in the loose 4/8 game i stopped playing in at Oklahoma.

Either your table selection sucks or you don't play 2/4 online. Every other night there is a guy at one of my tables who would call that with A7o. A year ago the games were even better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

dalecooper

09-09-2005, 07:15 PM

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They're still pretty bad (or good, however you want to put it - good for profit, bad for talent, let's say). I just started playing 1/2 and 2/4 and I'm AMAZED how much of this shit I see. It varies a lot from table to table and depending on the time of day, it seems like. But there are a lot of loose-ass tables where it is not at all surprising to see some fish limp in from early position and then call every raise that comes down.

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