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JJDylan
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02-22-2005, 03:37 AM
Post subject: sometimes the fish bite back...
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 211
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I posted the results just cause this is more for venting purposes than anything else...
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , A .
UTG calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero caps, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (26 SB) 4 , T , 9 (6 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero caps, MP2 calls, CO calls, BB calls, UTG calls.
Turn: (23 BB) 6 (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, CO calls, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero calls.
River: (29 BB) Q (3 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.
Final Pot: 31 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Ah Ad (one pair, aces).
MP2 has 9h 6s (two pair, nines and sixes).
CO has 4s Kh (one pair, fours).
Outcome: MP2 wins 31 BB.
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , K .
UTG calls, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (14 SB) T , K , 9 (7 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (14.50 BB) 3 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.
River: (14.50 BB) Q (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.
Final Pot: 18.50 BB
Results in white below:
SB has Js 7d (straight, king high).
BB has Kh 2h (one pair, kings).
Hero has Ac Kd (one pair, kings).
MP2 has 4c Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: SB wins 18.50 BB.
For the life of me i cant think of what the guy who 3-bet the flop had in the 2nd hand that he folded on the river...the AA hand was just rediculous...
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Fnord
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But hands like this make me smile. Fish had the better hand and got pwned.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is Button with A , Q .
UTG calls, 5 folds, Fnord raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (6.33 SB) 8 , K , J (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Fnord bets, BB calls, UTG folds.
Turn: (4.16 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord checks.
River: (4.16 BB) T (2 players)
BB bets, Fnord raises, BB calls.
Final Pot: 8.16 BB
Results in white below:
BB has Ah Kd (one pair, kings).
Fnord has Ad Qs (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Fnord wins 8.16 BB.
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gabe
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Originally Posted by Fnord
But hands like this make me smile. Fish had the better hand and got pwned.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is Button with A  , Q  .
UTG calls, 5 folds, Fnord raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (6.33 SB) 8  , K  , J (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Fnord bets, BB calls, UTG folds.
Turn: (4.16 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord checks.
River: (4.16 BB) T (2 players)
BB bets, Fnord raises, BB calls.
Final Pot: 8.16 BB
Results in white below:
BB has Ah Kd (one pair, kings).
Fnord has Ad Qs (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Fnord wins 8.16 BB.
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why don't you bet this turn when it is headsup? is the flop too scary?
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RiverMonkey
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02-22-2005, 06:49 AM
Post subject: Re: sometimes the fish bite back...
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 446
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by JJDylan
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A  , K  .
UTG calls, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (14 SB) T  , K  , 9 (7 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (14.50 BB) 3 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.
River: (14.50 BB) Q (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.
Final Pot: 18.50 BB
Results in white below:
SB has Js 7d (straight, king high).
BB has Kh 2h (one pair, kings).
Hero has Ac Kd (one pair, kings).
MP2 has 4c Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: SB wins 18.50 BB.
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You may have avoided losing this hand had you not given the free river card. What was your thinking behind checking the turn?
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JJDylan
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02-22-2005, 02:06 PM
Post subject: Re: sometimes the fish bite back...
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Location: Buffalo, NY
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by RiverMonkey
Quote:
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Originally Posted by JJDylan
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A  , K  .
UTG calls, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (14 SB) T  , K  , 9 (7 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (14.50 BB) 3 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.
River: (14.50 BB) Q (5 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.
Final Pot: 18.50 BB
Results in white below:
SB has Js 7d (straight, king high).
BB has Kh 2h (one pair, kings).
Hero has Ac Kd (one pair, kings).
MP2 has 4c Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: SB wins 18.50 BB.
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You may have avoided losing this hand had you not given the free river card. What was your thinking behind checking the turn?
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After MP1 3-bet the flop, i was trying to think of what hand he could have to do that with, i figured he had QJ and aready had his straight or caught something like 2 pair, either way i was expecting him to bet the turn after the 3-bet on the flop. Thats why this hand makes me so angry, after its all said and done he probably did that with nothing, and his 3-bet is what made me back off from betting/raising which in the end lost the hand for me
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pokermonk
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 9
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Originally Posted by gabe
Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
But hands like this make me smile. Fish had the better hand and got pwned.
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is Button with A  , Q  .
UTG calls, 5 folds, Fnord raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (6.33 SB) 8  , K  , J (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Fnord bets, BB calls, UTG folds.
Turn: (4.16 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord checks.
River: (4.16 BB) T (2 players)
BB bets, Fnord raises, BB calls.
Final Pot: 8.16 BB
Results in white below:
BB has Ah Kd (one pair, kings).
Fnord has Ad Qs (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Fnord wins 8.16 BB.
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why don't you bet this turn when it is headsup? is the flop too scary?
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it is better in this situation to get the free card as Fnord had a hand full of nothing. BB called the flop and was trying for a check-raise on the turn.
The right move for the fish was to raise the flop and bet the turn. Then again... if he'd done that he wouldn't be a fish!
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gabe
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it looks like he might have check raised now that you see his cards, but without knowing them you can't check headsup just because you are scared of a checkraise. the turn was a blank, if he had a draw he didn't hit. i bet this headsup everytime without a read.
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ChezJ
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Washington, D.C.
Posts: 1,456
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JJ, shame on you for checking that turn in hand 2. and likewise, shame on the BB for giving fnord that free river card.
ChezJ
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