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Old 09-14-2005, 09:34 AM     Post subject: Some very thin plays on every street #1 (permalink)  
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Game #889911074: Texas Hold'em Limit ($3/$6) - 2005/09/14 - 05:01:46 (ET)
Table "RealQuiet" Seat 7 is the button.
Seat 1: Rory001 ($63.87 in chips)
Seat 2: Host89 ($234 in chips)
Seat 3: VagaBond ($191 in chips)
Seat 5: Refref99 ($115.31 in chips)
Seat 7: DParadigm ($217.75 in chips)
Seat 8: Saxet ($45.62 in chips)
Seat 9: Booga ($215.50 in chips)
Seat 10: Dumbledor ($96.62 in chips)
Saxet: posts small blind $1.50
Booga: posts big blind $3
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to DParadigm [Qc Ah]
Dumbledor: folds
Dumbledor leaves the table
Rory001: calls $3
Host89: folds
VagaBond: raises $6
Refref99: folds
DParadigm: raises $9
Saxet: calls $7.50
Booga: folds
Rory001: calls $6
VagaBond: calls $3
----- FLOP ----- [Th 5d Kh]
Saxet: checks
Rory001: bets $3
VagaBond: raises $6
DParadigm: calls $6
Saxet: folds
Rory001: calls $3
----- TURN ----- [Th 5d Kh][4s]
Rory001: checks
VagaBond: bets $6
DParadigm: calls $6
Rory001: calls $6
----- RIVER ----- [Th 5d Kh 4s][Jh]
Rory001: checks
VagaBond: bets $6
DParadigm: raises $12
Rory001: folds
VagaBond: calls $6
----- SHOW DOWN -----
DParadigm: shows [Qc Ah] (A Straight, Ace high)
VagaBond: mucks hand
DParadigm collected $96 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $99 Main pot $96 Rake $3
Board [Th 5d Kh 4s Jh]
Seat 1: Rory001 folded on the River
Seat 2: Host89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: VagaBond mucked
Seat 5: Refref99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: DParadigm (button) showed [Qc Ah] and won ($96) with A Straight, Ace high
Seat 8: Saxet (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Booga (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
****HAND ENDS****
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Old 09-14-2005, 09:45 AM #2 (permalink)  
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On the flop you have a gutshot, a really dirty over and backdoor flush draw. Lets say 6 outs with 5 to the nuts (unless the board pairs) with the 2 big streets to come.

Pot has $30 - rake in it before the flop action.

Lets factor in a 3rd raise because your call doesn't close the action, exposing you to a potential 3-bet + cap. So we're putting in $9 to win $57 - rake + implied odds. Yeah, the backdoor flush draw makes this a call..
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Old 09-15-2005, 02:01 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I've never understood the "dirty over" idea, that people should fear someone with AT/AK when you have a AQ etc... I just don't see it very often.
take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
 
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I've never understood the "dirty over" idea, that people should fear someone with AT/AK when you have a AQ etc... I just don't see it very often.
Also consider that QJ makes a straight if you hit your Ace. When there are lots of broadway cards on the board multi-way one pair often isn't good. I consider the out dirty because it might make us a best hand but there is a strong chance we catch second best.
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Old 09-15-2005, 02:09 AM #5 (permalink)  
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true, there are more obvious "dirty boards" i look for, and can fold to a raise if I catch a hand but get re-raised, but some can be pretty hidden
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Old 09-15-2005, 06:18 AM     Post subject: On Party it does #6 (permalink)  
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I've never understood the "dirty over" idea, that people should fear someone with AT/AK when you have a AQ etc... I just don't see it very often.
On the Party skins this happens more often then you'd like to know.I ran into two AQo while holding AJo.I had raised preflop in LP presuming only one person had limped(found out two had limped.On flop check to me I bet two call.Turn clown leads.I raise.Second cold calls clown calls.River checks around they show AQo and split the pot.I lose yay.
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