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Nehmer

07-13-2005, 11:22 PM Post subject: Some tough situations...

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Hand 1: MP1 is kinda loose preflop and pretty passive post flop. BB is an idiot.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 6

, 6

. MP1 posts a blind of $4.
2 folds, MP1 (poster) checks, 3 folds, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 4

, 6

, 2

(4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, MP1 caps, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (9.16 BB) K

(3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, BB calls, MP1 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (21.16 BB) J

(3 players)
BB bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 24.16 BB

Hand 2: UTG+1 is a maniac. UTG+2 I have no read on.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 5

, 5

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 4 folds, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 3

, K

, 5

(5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 3-bets, Button folds, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) J

(3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (17.50 BB) K

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls, UTG+1 3-bets, UTG+2 caps, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 27.50 BB

Hand 3: UTG is a bit too loose, but not horrible post flop.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, T

.
UTG calls, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (7 SB) J

, 4

, 3

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG raises, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 9

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB folds, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 6

(2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG calls $16.50 (All-In), Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.80 BB

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07-14-2005, 12:50 AM

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Hand 1: I might raise the river, I don't think the BB has it. Looks like a river donk-bet to me. If the BB is a reasonable player, then the flush is a strong fit for his line.
Hand 2: What are you putting him on? Cap the turn. I don't see how you can fold the river. I think UTG+2 has 33 or over-played trips here often enough to take this one to showdown.
Hand 3: If he wasn't so close to all-in I'd just call the river.

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TylerK

07-14-2005, 02:03 AM

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I definitely don't think I can find a fold on the river on hand 2. What's your reasoning there?

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07-14-2005, 03:58 AM

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2. ?!? How did you fold 5's full, there were like 3 hands that could have possibly had you beat , KK, KJ, JJ

Nehmer

07-14-2005, 04:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Hand 1: I might raise the river, I don't think the BB has it. Looks like a river donk-bet to me. If the BB is a reasonable player, then the flush is a strong fit for his line.

Hand 2: What are you putting him on? Cap the turn. I don't see how you can fold the river. I think UTG+2 has 33 or over-played trips here often enough to take this one to showdown.

Hand 3: If he wasn't so close to all-in I'd just call the river.

Edit: took my replies out of Fnords quote.

Hand 1 reply: Pretty much exactly what I figured you'd say. Given my read, I figured BB didn't have the flush, but was just too much of a wuss to go through with a raise. I was correct and he only had 2-pair. It was fortunate that I was a wuss though as MP1 showed me 35. I have a tough time knowing when I should follow through and raise on "idiot" reads in marginal situations like this.

Hand 2 reply: I honestly have no idea why I didn't cap the turn. I will admit that the turn play bad, but do you really think I am good often enough given that much river action? It seems like one of them almost has to be on KJ, K5, or K3, or JJ.

Hand 3 reply: Exactly my thoughts, but I'm beginning to wonder if it really is profitable to just go ahead and put people all-in in situations where you wouldn't raise if they had more money...

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07-14-2005, 05:57 AM

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07-14-2005, 06:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nehmer

Hand 3 reply: Exactly my thoughts, but I'm beginning to wonder if it really is profitable to just go ahead and put people all-in in situations where you wouldn't raise if they had more money...

I'm not sure if this situation comes up often enough to determine profitability.

Oh, I think your hand 2 should've gone to showdown, if someone beat you, you need to pay them off with your flopped set, turned boat

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Fnord

07-14-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nehmer

Hand 3 reply: Exactly my thoughts, but I'm beginning to wonder if it really is profitable to just go ahead and put people all-in in situations where you wouldn't raise if they had more money...

I see people go all-in pre-flop or pot commit with hands like k8o all the time (and sometimes even fold post-flop when committed with any 2.) Hence, I give guys about to go all-in on a round of betting very loose action figuring it's at least good for table image...

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