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09-19-2005, 06:05 AM Post subject: some random questions

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Location: Ont, Canada

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After playing for about a month online, I've been thinking about my play and have some questions. BTW, I am playing full ring (1/2 Beginner's until they kick me off

)

1. My problem hand seems to be AQ. Of all my big starting hands, this
one is the only net loser.

i. if faced with a raise from an unknown player, do you muck this pre- flop? Maybe it's an old habit from NL, but I just don't
like calling raises/3-bets with AQ, but I also don't feel comfortable
3-betting/capping either. Right now I am only mucking against
rocks.
ii. Is this hand worth a cap (once again without a read)? For some
reason, I am much more comfortable capping AK than AQ. I
remember one hand where I pfr'd, and it was 3-bet and capped
before it got back to me. I folded for 2 more.

2. 99/TT facing a raise. I often find these hands hard to play pre-flop.
3-betting/capping doesn't work at 1/2, no one folds so I can't isolate.
Obviously, overs will flop most of the time, so with, say 3-4
opponents, is this a muck?

3. Sets - fastplay or slowplay? Obviously with a rainbow non-coordinated
flop you can slowplay, but what if flop is something like 893 rainbow?
893 with a flush draw?

4. AJo/KQo. The good ol' problem hands. I remember reading that
the pre-flop equity of these hands are rather thin; so my basic
strategy is to open raise or limp behind other limpers. Any
suggestions?

5. How much of a hand do you need to 3-bet a maniac? I've run into a few
of these guys (they seem to be a lot more common online). One of them
was 3-betting me on the flop with TEN HIGH (no draw either). Right
now if I feel I have a decent chance of folding everyone else, I will
3-bet ATs, KQ/AJ/AQ/AK (sooted or not), or pairs above 66.

6. I remember someone saying (was it Fnord?) that 'not playing
marginal hands against bad players is losing money' (not exact quote).
Right now I think I am playing too tight (about 15-20% VPIP).
Just how far do you lower your starting hand requirements for bad
players? Do hands like KJo or QJo become playable when the
table is bad enough?

7. Is it ever correct to muck AK pre-flop? I've only done this once, and it's
been bugging me. A timid player opened for a raise in EP (I put him on
a wired pair TT or better), and another timid player immediately 3-bet
(I put him on KK/AA). I was in the big blind with AKo. Was folding this
too weak? It might be bugging me cuz I would have won...

8. I've read a lot of posts (here and on other forums) about limping behind
2 or more limpers with something like Axs. According to math here
on FTR, you'll flop a flush/flush draw only about 10% of the time. So
in theory shouldn't you need about 8+ limpers in front to make this
profitable?[/list]

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09-19-2005, 02:03 PM

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1) it's a problem hand because the answer to every question regarding this hand is more likely to be "it depends" than any other hand. if the table is tight, then you should be more willing to isolate. if the table is loose, you should be more willing to cold call and outplay them on the flop.

2) it depends again. TT/99 play well vs few players or lots of players, but not in between. and yes, it's a muck vs 3-4 players.

3) almost never slowplay...ever.

4) i raise every time.

5) it depends how much of a maniac they are. if they always see a showdown or not. and how much variance you want to take on.

6) i muck early position. limp after others. or open raise MP and on.

7) about the only time i've ever mucked AKo preflop was a raise -> 3bet -> cap and i fold. depending on how many players are in the pot i may cap it myself.

8) no. because of implied odds you can expect to win more big bets later on to make the call profitable.

thenonsequitur

09-19-2005, 03:30 PM Post subject: Re: some random questions

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mdwav

8. I've read a lot of posts (here and on other forums) about limping behind 2 or more limpers with something like Axs. According to math here on FTR, you'll flop a flush/flush draw only about 10% of the time. So in theory shouldn't you need about 8+ limpers in front to make this profitable?

While you are looking to flop a flush or flush draw with Axs, remember that those aren't the only flops that are helpful. A backdoor flush draw and a pair will often let you see the turn, for example. Same with a pair and gutshot straight draw. And sometimes you hit an OESD with your x, two pair, or trips x. Each of these posibilities adds a little bit to the value of the hand. Sometimes an A will flop and your pair of aces will be the best hand (of course, the action, the players involved, and your position will help you decide whether a pair of aces with a weak kicker is likely to win, or worth continuing with). And, as hyper pointed out, Axs relies on implied odds to be profitible. To make money on this hand, you need to be paid off on later streets when you do hit a flush.

09-19-2005, 09:48 PM

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Always 3-bet AQ on a loose table, FOR VALUE.

Cold-call 99/TT if you think you have odds for a set (a lot more people cold-calling or already in the pot)

Always fast play sets TP always pays you off at this level
3-bet a maniac with the average range much better than his

You'll win with Axs 5% more often than with Axo, not a total of 5% of the time

Trips, two pair, one pair, ace high, all of these happen quite often to add value to the hand
But the 5% add to the 15% chance to win a hand against a big field and that's what makes the hand playable.

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