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Old 05-07-2006, 07:38 PM     Post subject: Some more hands for review #1 (permalink)  
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Maybe I should fold preflop, but I'm more interested on the turn and river. checking on the turn really tells me he's got 2 big cards, and one of them isn't a T. I only have 10 hands on this player so no reads.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with A, 2. Hero posts a blind of $2.
3 folds, MP1 raises, 2 folds, Hero (poster) calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 4, 2, 7 (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) T (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 5 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Hand 2
Do you call these down when the board double pairs and you believe your ace kicker has a chance? Or do you dump it on the chance that he has a pocket pair? Most peoples 3 betting range is AQ, AQs, AK, AKs, JJ, QQ, KK, AA. So at best I'm hoping for a split. Call down or dump it where?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, Q.
Hero raises, 6 folds, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 2, 3, 3 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 2 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 9 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Hand 3
Just at a total loss here.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, J.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) T, J, 6 (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) 7 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero folds, Button calls.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB

Hand 4
Is this the best way to play this situation? you've got a big pocket pair and the flop has 1 card higher. If he calls my raise and checks the turn, do I check too? I've also tried just calling the flop bet and almost always folding the turn. This happens more often when you start raising hands like 77, 88, 99. I think I need to be playing this better before I can confidently do this.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T, T.
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 5 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) J, 3, 6 (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

And another general question...what to do if there's a raise and you hold AQo or KQo on the SB? I had a few hands like this that I called and hit the flop, but it turned out ugly. No point in posting them, I'm just wondering if it's decent to call in this spot.

and in closing, the usual funny hands:

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J, K.
2 folds, MP1 raises, 5 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 2, 5, J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, Hero caps, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) K (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, Hero calls.

River: (14.25 BB) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB




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Preflop: Hero is CO with A, Q.
4 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) J, 2, J (3 players)
BB folds.

Final Pot: 2.25 BB
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Old 05-07-2006, 07:55 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1: Fold preflop
Hand 4: Call the flop, you're only folding a better hand.
Hand 5: Fold prelfop without a read

Facing a raise, I'3betting Aqo from teh SB but KQo it depends on the position of the PFRer and any reads i have on him.


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Old 05-07-2006, 08:11 PM #3 (permalink)  
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1) Fold preflop is probably correct.Beyond that, I think its played fine. On the turn youve gotta put villain on like, AQ UI. If he shows 66 or something, well, so be it.

Hand 2) I caught myself doing this about an hour ago at a 6max table. I wasn't happy about it. I'd like to see someone elses opnion on these.

Hand 3) Whenever the pot is more than HU, and the guy who has just been calling calling calling suddenly wakes up, he's got the nuts or the near nuts. Run. I can find a turn fold here.

Hand 4) Well, youre almost never good here. I dont mind a turn fold. As to your question, if he just called your flop raise and checked the turn, you should bet. You dont want to give him a free card to beat you with any A or K. Like if he held A6. So I'd bet the turn and probably check behind on the river.

Hand 5) Slow down bro. You better have a beast of a read to not put him on the flush there.

Hand 6) Can't really ask for a better result there. If it the flop had read, "BB checks ..." I woulda been ready for the bad beat story.
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I dont mind the preflop call on hand 5 with KJo, but uh, after that you went waaayyy too far. The check raise on the flop is good for information. When he threebets, you goooottaaa slow down.
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Old 05-07-2006, 08:16 PM     Post subject: Re: Some more hands for review #5 (permalink)  
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Maybe I should fold preflop
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Old 05-07-2006, 08:22 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 05-07-2006, 08:24 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Facing a raise, I'3betting Aqo from teh SB but KQo it depends on the position of the PFRer and any reads i have on him.
Out of position 3 bet with AQo? you scare me! I'll take it into consideration. I can sort of see this with someone that has a PFR of 15+ but what about the standard 8? I have absolutely no problem 3 betting AQo with position on the raiser (even if I'm in bad position myself) but on the SB...I dunno. I guess you're just hoping the BB folds and you get HU.

The last 2 hands are just funny hands, I didn't really expect anyone to comment on them. The guy was pretty nuts with an AF of over 4. I just find it funny that he folds to 1 bet on the river after he capped the turn himself. Maybe he had AQ with 1 club. naw...that would be too logical.
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Old 05-07-2006, 08:26 PM     Post subject: Re: Some more hands for review #8 (permalink)  
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Hand 1
Maybe I should fold preflop
...maybe???
lol...sorry

not too many rules out there for what to do when posting so I'm just totally lost.
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Old 05-07-2006, 08:26 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Out of position 3 bet with AQo? you scare me! I'll take it into consideration. I can sort of see this with someone that has a PFR of 15+ but what about the standard 8? I have absolutely no problem 3 betting AQo with position on the raiser (even if I'm in bad position myself) but on the SB...I dunno. I guess you're just hoping the BB folds and you get HU.
Getting the BB out is a plus, and also having the preflop raiser define his range helps too. Raising is a lot better than flat calling and folding isn't an option.


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Old 05-07-2006, 08:31 PM     Post subject: Re: Some more hands for review #10 (permalink)  
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Hand 1
Maybe I should fold preflop
...maybe???
lol...sorry

not too many rules out there for what to do when posting so I'm just totally lost.
I actually didn't notice that you posted. I thought you were completely insane.

It's close, but I think your reverse implied odds with this hand are so horribly bad vs. your implied odds that folding is still the better play.
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