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Old 01-06-2005, 03:39 PM     Post subject: some more hands.. #1 (permalink)  
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sorry for the crappy prima format, but thanks for analysis

hand 1
*** Export for: gabe Game: Texas Holdem Game number: 201718168 ***
Date: 1/6/2005 5:07:53 AM
Game: 201718168: Table: Carpet Scrub
Normal Table Fixed Limit 0.25/0.50
Rake: 0.25
Seat: 1 Kjelon
Seat: 2 Z-Rat
Seat: 3 KHawk
Seat: 4 Grazyna
Seat: 5 SmallSlick
Seat: 6 gabe (Dealer) [ KS, 10S ]
Seat: 8 dshow27
Seat: 9 talala

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OpeningBetRound
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dshow27 : Posts small blind 0.12
talala : Posts big blind 0.25
SmallSlick : Posts 0.25
Kjelon : Folds
Z-Rat : Folds
KHawk : Folds
Grazyna : Calls for 0.25
SmallSlick : Checks
gabe : Raises for 0.50
dshow27 : Calls for 0.38
talala : Folds
Grazyna : Calls for 0.25
SmallSlick : Calls for 0.25
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Flop [ 10D, 9S, JC]
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dshow27 : Checks
Grazyna : Checks
SmallSlick : Checks
gabe : Bets 0.25
dshow27 : Raises for 0.50
Grazyna : Folds
SmallSlick : Folds
gabe : Raises for 0.50
dshow27 : Raises for 0.50
gabe : Calls for 0.25

i capped because i had a gutshot, an overcard, an already made pair, and a backdoor flushdraw. this gives me 10.5 outs. was this a good decision or not?

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Turn [ 10D, 9S, JC, JD]
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dshow27 : Bets 0.50
gabe : Calls for 0.50
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River [ 10D, 9S, JC, JD, 4H ]
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dshow27 : Bets 0.50
gabe : Calls for 0.50

i'm thinking i should have folded the river

hand 2
*** Export for: gabe Game: Texas Holdem Game number: 201705254 ***
Date: 1/6/2005 4:44:33 AM
Game: 201705254: Table: Carpet Scrub
Normal Table Fixed Limit 0.25/0.50
Rake: 0.25
Seat: 1 Kjelon
Seat: 2 Z-Rat
Seat: 3 KHawk
Seat: 4 Grazyna
Seat: 5 fieldmellish (Dealer)
Seat: 6 gabe [ JD, AC ]
Seat: 7 MrRippey
Seat: 9 talala
Seat: 10 DirtyEarnie

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OpeningBetRound
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gabe : Posts small blind 0.12
MrRippey : Posts big blind 0.25
talala : Calls for 0.25
DirtyEarnie : Calls for 0.25
Kjelon : Calls for 0.25
Z-Rat : Folds
KHawk : Calls for 0.25
Grazyna : Calls for 0.25
fieldmellish : Calls for 0.25
gabe : Calls for 0.13
MrRippey : Bets 0.25
talala : Calls for 0.25
DirtyEarnie : Calls for 0.25
Kjelon : Calls for 0.25
KHawk : Calls for 0.25
Grazyna : Calls for 0.25
fieldmellish : Calls for 0.25
gabe : Calls for 0.25
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Flop [ JC, 5H, 6C ]
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gabe : Checks
MrRippey : Bets 0.25
talala : Calls for 0.25
DirtyEarnie : Calls for 0.25
Kjelon : Raises for 0.50
KHawk : Folds
Grazyna : Folds
fieldmellish : Folds
gabe : Raises for 0.75
MrRippey : Calls for 0.50
talala : Folds
DirtyEarnie : Calls for 0.50
Kjelon : Calls for 0.25
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Turn [ JC, 5H, 6C, 4S ]
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gabe : Bets 0.50
MrRippey : Raises for 1.00
DirtyEarnie : Raises for 1.50
Kjelon : Calls for 1.50
gabe : Calls for 1.00
MrRippey : Calls for 0.50
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River [ JC, 5H, 6C, 4S, 8H ]
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gabe : Checks
MrRippey : Checks
DirtyEarnie : Checks
Kjelon : Checks
DirtyEarnie : Shows cards
Kjelon : Mucks cards

hand 3
*** Export for: gabe Game: Texas Holdem Game number: 201735402 ***
Date: 1/6/2005 5:41:38 AM
Game: 201735402: Table: Backflip
Normal Table Fixed Limit 0.25/0.50
Rake: 0.25
Seat: 1 gabe [ 9C, 8C ]
Seat: 2 openseat42
Seat: 3 ROOKE176888
Seat: 4 bamawins
Seat: 5 kingman24
Seat: 6 angbob
Seat: 7 GirlNxtDoor
Seat: 8 theorc
Seat: 9 kalani (Dealer)
Seat: 10 Parker4

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OpeningBetRound
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Parker4 : Posts small blind 0.12
gabe : Posts big blind 0.25
openseat42 : Folds
ROOKE176888 : Calls for 0.25
bamawins : Calls for 0.25
kingman24 : Folds
angbob : Folds
GirlNxtDoor : Folds
theorc : Folds
kalani : Calls for 0.25
Parker4 : Folds
gabe : Checks
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Flop [ 3D, 5H, 9H]
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gabe : Checks
ROOKE176888 : Checks
bamawins : Checks
kalani : Bets 0.25
gabe : Raises for 0.50
ROOKE176888 : Raises for 0.75
bamawins : Folds
kalani : Calls for 0.50
gabe : Calls for 0.25
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Turn [ 3D, 5H, 9H, 8S ]
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gabe : Bets 0.50
ROOKE176888 : Calls for 0.50
kalani : Calls for 0.50
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River [ 3D, 5H, 9H, 8S, 5D ]
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gabe : Bets 0.50
ROOKE176888 : Calls for 0.50
kalani : Raises for 1.00
gabe : Calls for 0.50
ROOKE176888 : Folds

hand 4
*** Export for: gabe Game: Texas Holdem Game number: 201725469 ***
Date: 1/6/2005 5:21:52 AM
Game: 201725469: Table: Cruising Sky
Normal Table Fixed Limit 0.25/0.50
Rake: 0.25
Seat: 1 Wil008
Seat: 2 Drifter22
Seat: 3 dbldip
Seat: 4 dup99
Seat: 5 gabe [ AC, KH ]
Seat: 6 Flyers93
Seat: 7 KnightAll (Dealer)
Seat: 9 gravediggerr
Seat: 10 NASTEE

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OpeningBetRound
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gravediggerr : Posts small blind 0.12
NASTEE : Posts big blind 0.25
Wil008 : Folds
Drifter22 : Calls for 0.25
dbldip : Folds
dup99 : Calls for 0.25
gabe : Raises for 0.50
Flyers93 : Folds
KnightAll : Folds
gravediggerr : Folds
NASTEE : Folds
Drifter22 : Calls for 0.25
dup99 : Calls for 0.25
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Flop [ KS, 7C, JS]
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Drifter22 : Checks
dup99 : Checks
gabe : Bets 0.25
Drifter22 : Calls for 0.25
dup99 : Raises for 0.50
gabe : Raises for 0.50
Drifter22 : Folds
dup99 : Raises for 0.50
gabe : Calls for 0.25
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Turn [ KS, 7C, JS, 3D ]
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dup99 : Bets 0.50
gabe : Calls for 0.50
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River [ KS, 7C, JS, 3D, AS ]
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dup99 : Bets 0.50
gabe : Raises for 1.00
dup99 : Calls for 0.50

hand 5
*** Export for: gabe Game: Texas Holdem Game number: 200189576 ***
Date: 1/4/2005 7:44:03 PM
Game: 200189576: Table: Cruising Sky
Normal Table Fixed Limit 0.25/0.50
Rake: 0.15
Seat: 1 hedenhos
Seat: 2 utanarmar (Dealer)
Seat: 3 maxxpower
Seat: 4 iwantaz
Seat: 5 gabe [ AH, KS ]
Seat: 6 atranders
Seat: 7 modulare
Seat: 8 westi1
Seat: 10 squirrel79

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OpeningBetRound
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maxxpower : Posts small blind 0.12
iwantaz : Posts big blind 0.25
gabe : Raises for 0.50
atranders : Folds
modulare : folds timed out
westi1 : Calls for 0.50
squirrel79 : Folds
hedenhos : Calls for 0.50
utanarmar : Folds
maxxpower : Folds
iwantaz : Folds
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Flop [ QH, 5H, 9S]
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gabe : Bets 0.25
westi1 : Folds
hedenhos : Raises for 0.50
gabe : Calls for 0.25
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Turn [ QH, 5H, 9S, 6S ]
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gabe : Checks
hedenhos : Bets 0.50
gabe : Calls for 0.50
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River [ QH, 5H, 9S, 6S, 4S ]
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gabe : Checks
hedenhos : Bets 0.50
gabe : Folds
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Old 01-06-2005, 04:57 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Capping here might have been a mistake because you're basically hoping that your pair will hold up. Youre behind here to at least top pair and probably a straight (if not, maybe an OESD). Your overcard, if you hit it, will likely give someone a straight or top 2 pair at least. The only thing in this hand that might bail you out is your backdoor flush draw and your gutshot - and you most definitely dont have the odds from those to continue in this hand let alone cap the betting. Try to account for tainted outs more often. Fail the flop, fold the turn unimproved.

ill critique some more hands later, im on my way out, sorry.
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Old 01-06-2005, 06:07 PM #3 (permalink)  
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hand 1:
looks like you are up against a flopped straight. i don't mind the flop reraise, it lets you know exactly where you are...likely behind. i might actually fold to the cap, or toss on the turn. if you call the turn you should call the river too.

hand 2:
hmmm interesting...what did you want people to do when you 3bet the flop? did you want them to call or did you want them to fold? realize that no one with a draw will fold, and they will all call profitably. this is probably a good application from SSHE on waiting for the turn to raise. it almost looks like everyone missed the flush draw on the river, cuz any overpair would bet the river again.

hand 3:
well played.

hand 4:
raising the turn is also a good option

hand 5:
i'd attempt a check raise on the flop
 
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Old 01-06-2005, 07:30 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Call pre-flop, don't re-raise the flop. From there the hand plays very differently.
Hand 2: Turn is interesting. Read would be key here making a call/fold decision
Hand 3: Well played
Hand 4: Well played
Hand 5: Either fold the turn or call the river. If he's aggro he shows you a busted flush draw often enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 01-06-2005, 07:34 PM #5 (permalink)  
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hand 2:
hmmm interesting...what did you want people to do when you 3bet the flop? did you want them to call or did you want them to fold? realize that no one with a draw will fold, and they will all call profitably. this is probably a good application from SSHE on waiting for the turn to raise. it almost looks like everyone missed the flush draw on the river, cuz any overpair would bet the river again.
3-bet because you have the best hand and want to make draws to 2pr/gutshot overpay/fold. Waiting for the turn here might be FPS.

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hand 5:
i'd attempt a check raise on the flop
Care to explain? He raised pre-flop and missed the board...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Quote:
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hand 2:
hmmm interesting...what did you want people to do when you 3bet the flop? did you want them to call or did you want them to fold? realize that no one with a draw will fold, and they will all call profitably. this is probably a good application from SSHE on waiting for the turn to raise. it almost looks like everyone missed the flush draw on the river, cuz any overpair would bet the river again.
3-bet because you have the best hand and want to make draws to 2pr/gutshot overpay/fold. Waiting for the turn here might be FPS.

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hand 5:
i'd attempt a check raise on the flop
Care to explain? He raised pre-flop and missed the board...
what does FPS stand for? frames per second? *gets kicked in the groining*

anywho, wouldn't you want them to pay on the turn instead of the flop when the bets double?

and about the CR...sorry, completely forgot you don't have position
 
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FPS = fancy play syndrome
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