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pokerlearner
Old 09-20-2005, 08:09 AM     Post subject: some hands from tonight #1 (permalink)  
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Hi guys,
feels so good to have some things go my way after so many days. I still want to know if my line was goo dand whether I played it fine or just got lucky

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Hand 1:
No reads on either villains. My usual play everday would be to call the 3 bet and call down from there. in this scary board on the turn and river, what could they have that I beat. I was preflop raiser, and villain 3 bets me, thats no TPTK, thats 2 pair or set right but folds to cap. The other guy calls down till the river? checking the river correct ? betting the river correct ? if i am raised on the river, still call but am almost 90% sure i am beat. ? I am not asking about this specific hand but if it happend again similar situation I mean, with overpair against 4 straight board, i should check call right, even against 1 player ?
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9, 3, 8 (3 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero caps, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: (8.75 BB) T (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Kc Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.75 BB.

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Hand 2:
No read on MP1. I would have folded the turn if ANYONE was going to call down. it was left to me. give him credit for a flush card and fold or call down ? in 1-2 will people start to bluff against PFR or is it a genuine flush ? is the 7 bb pot big enough ??

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
3 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 9, 5, K (5 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 2 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: (9 BB) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Qc Qd (two pair, kings and queens).
MP1 has Jh 5c (flush, king high).
Outcome: MP1 wins 11 BB.

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Hand 3:
3 betting preflop and capping on flop got me worried and decided to call down. Villain surely has AA-JJ. its no AK or AQ right. how many times am I ahead and how many times I am behind. What would you guys do ? Its been my experience that most of the time in this similar situation and given preflop and flop action villain has AA-JJ. am i correct or am i too weak here ?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, T.
Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 3-bets, 5 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 7, 2, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP2 caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Tc Ts (one pair, tens).
MP2 has 9c 9h (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.75 BB.
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Hand 4:
I am repping K or Q here. but he called me down till river. I have to check now, but should I call if he bets the river. i always think villain is slowplaying K or Q. should I call if villain bets the river for such a small pot ??

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 9.
7 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, Button calls, SB folds.

Flop: (5 SB) Q, K, K (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 9h 9c (two pair, kings and nines).
Button has Jc Td (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 5.50 BB.
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Old 09-20-2005, 08:18 AM #2 (permalink)  
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1- bet the turn, check the river
2- bet the turn, fold to a raise
3- good. In 5/10 I'll sometimes checkraise or bet the river.
4- bet the river
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1- bet the turn, check the river
2- bet the turn, fold to a raise
3- good. In 5/10 I'll sometimes checkraise or bet the river.
4- bet the river
Explain to me why you bet the river in #4? I think it is the WORST thing you could possibly do.........
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Old 09-20-2005, 09:41 AM #4 (permalink)  
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1- bet the turn, check the river
2- bet the turn, fold to a raise
3- good. In 5/10 I'll sometimes checkraise or bet the river.
4- bet the river
Explain to me why you bet the river in #4? I think it is the WORST thing you could possibly do.........
because you would be forced to call a bet if your opponent bet.

I understand your thinking though... Specifically since you want to showdown, you are best checking and calling to possibly induce a bluff from a busted draw.
I don't think that that is a bad line, and I think it is definitely best at 5/10. At 1/2 however, you have a lot of players calling to the river with worse hands.
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1- bet the turn, check the river
2- bet the turn, fold to a raise
3- good. In 5/10 I'll sometimes checkraise or bet the river.
4- bet the river
Explain to me why you bet the river in #4? I think it is the WORST thing you could possibly do.........
because you would be forced to call a bet if your opponent bet.

I understand your thinking though... Specifically since you want to showdown, you are best checking and calling to possibly induce a bluff from a busted draw.
I don't think that that is a bad line, and I think it is definitely best at 5/10. At 1/2 however, you have a lot of players calling to the river with worse hands.
Do you call if you get raised?
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Old 09-20-2005, 05:51 PM #6 (permalink)  
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what hand could possibly raise in hand#4 that doesnt beat me already ? shouldnt it be a clear fold if raised on river, if i bet.
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Hand 1: Bet the turn.
Hand 2: Check/fold the turn. Too many players called your flop bet to think about betting out here.
Hand 3: I would check/raise the flop. If 3-bet it's close between cap +lead and check/call all the way depending on who I'm up against.
Hand 4: River looks fine to me. Against some opponents I would just check/fold the river.
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