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Old 04-29-2005, 02:34 AM     Post subject: Some hands from this afternoon #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1
UTG+1 is loose/passive

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Preflop: Fnord is Button with K, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 raises, 1 fold, Fnord 3-bets, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) K, 7, 4 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP3 calls, Fnord raises, SB calls, UTG+1 3-bets, MP3 folds, Fnord calls, SB calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) J (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, Fnord raises, SB calls, UTG+1 3-bets, Fnord calls, SB calls.

River: (20.50 BB) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, Fnord calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB
Hand 2

Villian is unknown

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with K, Q.
4 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, Fnord calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) T, Q, Q (2 players)
Fnord bets, CO raises, Fnord calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) J (2 players)
Fnord checks, CO bets, Fnord raises, CO 3-bets, Fnord calls.

River: (10.16 BB) 5 (2 players)
Fnord checks, CO bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 12.16 BB

Hand 3

MP1 is a multi-table rock 12/5 split.
UTG+2 is a horrible calling station.

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Preflop: Fnord is MP2 with J, J.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 raises, Fnord 3-bets, 5 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 caps, Fnord calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (13.33 SB) J, A, 2 (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets, Fnord raises, UTG+2 calls, MP1 3-bets, Fnord caps, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (12.66 BB) 4 (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets, Fnord raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 3-bets, Fnord caps, MP1 calls.

River: (20.66 BB) K (2 players)
MP1 bets, Fnord raises, MP1 3-bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 26.66 BB

Hand 4

Villian is LooPy

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Preflop: Fnord is UTG with K, A.
Fnord raises, 5 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) T, 2, 6 (3 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) T (3 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, CO calls, BB folds.

River: (6.66 BB) T (2 players)
Fnord checks, CO bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 8.66 BB

Hand 5

Villian is loose/passive pre-flop but gets aggro post-flop

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with Q, A.
4 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB completes, Fnord raises, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 2, 4, 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets, MP2 raises, SB folds, Fnord calls.

Turn: (5 BB) T (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 bets, Fnord calls.

River: (7 BB) 8 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:59 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: I would be more inclined to cap the flop and slow down on the turn if he bets into me.

Hand 2: Play it the same

Hand 3: If he is a rock I would put hm on AK or AA the way he played the flop. I play it the same here.

Hand4: Repeat hand...is he laggy or a rock???

Hand5: Hmm, I say Ax or a small-mid PP, I dont know though, this is a read dependent hand.
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Old 04-29-2005, 03:02 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Fixed hand 4
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Old 04-29-2005, 03:06 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 4: I use this play all the time, it

a. saves you a bet if he has a hand
b. gains you a bet when he has junk and bluffs (flush draws mostly)
c. eliminates the bluff raise (rarely happens)

I would play the hand the same, especially with the 2 spade flop, I would check/call this river.
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Old 04-29-2005, 03:56 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand 1- I just call the turn and river. (too weak?)

Hand 2- I 4 bet the turn, then slowdown. If you are not ahead you have a redraw to a straight... or boat, If he has a boat then... crap.

Hand 3- I might even just call 1 bet on the river, but I play the turn the same.

Hand 4- meh.

Hand 5- I guess so... but I usually fold on the turn.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:21 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Hand 2- I 4 bet the turn, then slowdown. If you are not ahead you have a redraw to a straight... or boat, If he has a boat then... crap.
I figure he's either full of shit or has me smoked with not much in between. Most Qx that raise pre-flop has me boated or out-kicked, then throw in JJ and TT. How often do you run a line that SCREAMS trip Qs, then get 3-bet on the turn c/r?

I really should have 3-bet the flop and lead the turn as this line is just too damn obvious and makes it too darn easy to laydown a worse hand.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:38 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Hand 6

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Preflop: Fnord is UTG with A, T.
Fnord raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 3 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Fnord calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 6, T, 9 (3 players)
SB bets, Fnord raises, MP1 calls, SB 3-bets, Fnord calls, MP1 caps, SB calls $2 (All-In), Fnord calls.

Turn: (10.83 BB) 4 (3 players, 1 all-in)
Fnord checks, MP1 checks.

River: (10.83 BB) J (3 players, 1 all-in)
Fnord checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: 10.83 BB

Hand 7

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with 8, 9.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 4 folds, Fnord checks.

Flop: (3.33 SB) T, K, 8 (3 players)
Fnord bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (2.66 BB) A (2 players)
Fnord bets, MP1 calls.

River: (4.66 BB) 9 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP1 bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 6.66 BB

Hand 8
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Preflop: Fnord is MP3 with J, J.
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Fnord 3-bets, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 caps, MP1 folds, Fnord calls, Button calls.

Flop: (16.33 SB) 8, 2, 4 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Fnord raises, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (11.16 BB) Q (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets, Button calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (14.16 BB) 5 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 14.16 BB

Hand 9

Villian is tight/passive and probably playing a gizilion tables...

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with A, K. CO posts a blind of $3.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, CO (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB raises, Fnord 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, SB caps, Fnord calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 8, 4, 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets, SB raises, Fnord calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 3 (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

River: (9 BB) K (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB
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Hand 10

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with A, 9.
3 folds, MP1 raises, 5 folds, Fnord calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 6, 4, 4 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP1 bets, Fnord calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 5 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP1 bets, Fnord calls.

River: (5.16 BB) T (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: 5.16 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has Ah 9h (one pair, fours).
MP1 has Kc Qc (one pair, fours).
Outcome: Fnord wins 5.16 BB.
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Hand 6: Nothing you can do here, you got caught between raisers, and they let you show it down. What was the table like here, table dynamics influence how i play this hand pre flop and on the flop.

Hand 7. This is a board that a lot of weaker player will have a hand with. Kx, 10x and so forth. I would be more inclined to check fold unimproved on the turn. gotta call the river though. On the flop you have bottom pair with a backdooor straight draw, in a tougher game I would bet this, but it really depends on the game.

Hand 8: If both your opponents are on a flush draw here the river check is fine, but I would bet the river here, this is a pretty safe river card if you can bet/ fold to a raise? agreed? I think you missed a bet here....assuming you can fold to a raise.

Hand9. Given the read, what hand can you put the villian on here? If he IS a tight passive mutli rock, what range of hands will he raise from the small blind with 2 limpers(granted 1 is a poster). I think you river a PP here, or split the pot.

Hand 10: At a tight table, I play it the same, I would be somewhat worried about being kickered, the bet coming from mp1 I would use a read to call down. What were his stats? IF he is a LAggy raiser, I would call down, a tigher raiser either fold or c/r the flop and determine whether a call down is warrented here. With a standard player, I think you are good here 35% of the time ( standard being a player that raises kq, any suited broadway, not KJos). This to me is another read dependent hand. I have called with king high before, but its all in the read. Without a read, I either check fold or check raise here. I dont like leading because a good player will call, then c/r u on the turn. You really cant get any information off a lead HU assuming your opponent is decent (unless the player is taggy, in which a call can mean trouble)
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I must say, I'm rather confused by the play on hand 7. I agree with trikflow77 in that I'd be inclined to check/fold the turn with that many overs on the board, but I'm very confused by the river play. The check-call seems weak, considering you just hit your two pair, with no flush or likely straight-draws hitting the board. I'd be inclined to bet out the river as well.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:29 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
Fixed hand 4
exactly like yours
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