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bdawg56kg

01-27-2008, 12:04 AM Post subject: Some 25plo line checks.

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I'm pretty new to omaha. Just wanted some opinions on my lines here. Thanks.

1. Reraise preflop? Donk flop? Is the rest standard?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($31.55)
Hero ($14.75)
BB ($20.15)
UTG ($5.65)
MP ($51.45)
CO ($23.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8

, Q

, A

.
UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3.25) A

, 3

, K

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($3.25) Q

(3 players)
Hero bets $2.25, UTG folds, MP raises to $8, Hero raises to $13.75, MP calls $5.75.

River: ($30.75) K

(2 players)

Final Pot: $30.75

Results in white below:
Hero has 8d Qd Ad Ah (full house, aces full of kings).
MP has 8c Qh Tc Jc (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $30.75.

2. Standard value bet on river?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($24)
Hero ($23.85)
UTG ($23.35)
MP ($20.95)
Button ($30.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

.
3 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.50)

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.5, SB calls $0.50.

Turn: ($1.50)

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.45, SB calls $1.45.

River: ($4.40)

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.75, SB folds.

Final Pot: $4.4

Results in white below:

Outcome: Hero wins $4.40.

3. Bet this turn?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($28.95)
UTG ($11.60)
Hero ($15.70)
CO ($27)
Button ($13.10)
SB ($5)

Preflop: Hero is MP with

.
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Button calls $0.85, 2 folds.

Flop: ($2.05)

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.5, Button calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.05)

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.75, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $5.05

Results in white below:
No showdown. Button wins $5.05.

4. Lost value here?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($19.95)
Hero ($32.65)
UTG ($17.50)
MP ($40.05)
Button ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with

.
1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.75)

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, MP calls $0.75, SB folds.

Turn: ($2.25)

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25.

River: ($4.75)

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.75, MP raises to $7.5, Hero calls $3.75.

Final Pot: $19.75

Results in white below:

Outcome: Hero wins $19.75.

5. Good time to bluff river? BB is on another one of my tables and seems decent.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($19.70)
Hero ($41.70)
BB ($17.50)
UTG ($30.30)
MP ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with

.
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($1.50)

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, BB calls $1.25.

Turn: ($4)

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: ($4)

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.75, BB folds.

Final Pot: $4

Results in white below:
Hero has 3d 6c Ad 5c (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $4.

6. Is this spew or standard? Opp seemed tightish.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

saw flop|saw showdown

MP ($34.85)
Hero ($25.70)
Button ($24)
SB ($48.05)
BB ($46)
UTG ($17.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with

.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.1, Button calls $1.10, SB raises to $4.9, 1 fold, UTG folds, Hero calls $3.80, Button calls $3.80.

Flop: ($15.20)

(3 players)
SB bets $14.45, Hero folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: $15.2

Results in white below:
No showdown. SB wins $15.20.

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TLR

01-27-2008, 07:05 AM

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Hand1: I would reraise preflop, you have a very strong hand, no reason to flat call
Definitely bet flop, you have a top set on a board with flush draw and str8 draw, since you hold both the A and Q of the flush you will not get action if the flush hits, if someone has a set of kings you will get action anyhow. I can see it is tempting to check-raise this board with top set, nut flush draw and original raiser still left to act, but I would still bet it, any QJT hitting makes your hand very vonerable

The turn is a bad card for you, I would not lead out here, I would check/call and see what happens from there

Hand2: I would check behind, I doubt you are getting a call here since he seems to be drawing to the flush, and if he made the spade flush you are getting check/raised

Hand3: I would not raise it from MP, other then that fine

Hand4: I would bet turn again, river is fine

swiggidy

01-27-2008, 06:06 PM

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Hand 1: lead flop, especially since you're short. It's likely it hit someone.

In Omaha it's called leading, not donking because it's not a retarded play.

Full pot turn. In Omaha there are more draws out, you can't cut their odds with < PSB bets. Sometimes they'll even have odds to chase if you PSB (although they "should" be raising then).

Even if you are behind you have redraw outs to the boat, so yeah it's fine (especially when your 60BB deep).

Hand 2: I bet here a lot, you'll get looked up by rivered 2 pairs/sets sometimes. Easy fold if you're raised.

Hand 3: I don't like full raise pre with this hand. It's really just ok. Min-raise to pot sweeten.

bet full pot on flop.

Turn, sometimes I b/f, I don't think c/f is wrong. This is a situation wher I would bet less than pot.

Hand 4: I lead turn for $2.

River I feel your hand is face up, but whatever. I 3bet all-in. You should only be worried about TT.

Against a known agro I might slow down and let him take control. There are very very few of these at 25PLO.

Hand 5: Tough to say. I'm more likely to bet turn again. I see a lot of "floats" on paired HU flops, then they check behind. Your river bet isn't bad (At micro stakes).

Hand 6: If you think he has AA 99% of the time and stacks off post, then calling is ok. If flop is A74 you're snap pushing.

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swiggidy

01-27-2008, 06:20 PM

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k, I answered without reading TLRs. He's very much tighter than me. Except for hand 1 it's not that I disagree, but play a different style.

Hand 1: Yeah the Q isn't great, but you still have up to 16 outs. Since villain almost always has the straight here on the turn, you could call and push any river you hit. I don't like c/f unless you have a good read so go ahead and get it in on the turn. Against a TJKQ you're 37/63 and easily have odds after he raises.

Hand 3: I never open limp. Playing tiny (3bb) pots OOP is the sucks. If you min-raise you'll get 4 callers so pot is 10bb.

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