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gabe
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01-13-2005, 02:56 PM
Post subject: some 1/2 hands
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sorry for the format, the converter doesn't like these.
hand 1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to CodeRed1 [9c Jc]
Thekiwi: folds
flafishy: folds
ryans: checks
CodeRed1: calls $1
Beldar: calls $1
Buck: calls $1
Cakke: folds
tomvv: checks
----- FLOP ----- [3c 6c Ah]
tomvv: checks
ryans: checks
Armbro joins the table at seat #9
CodeRed1: bets $1
Beldar: raises $2
Buck: folds
KennyP3 leaves the table
tomvv: folds
ryans: calls $2
CodeRed1: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [3c 6c Ah][7c]
ryans: checks
CodeRed1: checks
Beldar: bets $2
ryans: folds
CodeRed1: raises $4
Beldar: raises $4
CodeRed1: calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [3c 6c Ah 7c][Kd]
CodeRed1: checks
Beldar: bets $2
CodeRed1: calls $2
hand 2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to CodeRed1 [7c Jc]
scscoach: calls $1
tomvv: calls $1
Topdeck: folds
smracine4: folds
majestyk2: folds
BigZeus: folds
KennyP3: folds
CodeRed1: calls $0.50
Buck: raises $1
scscoach: calls $1
tomvv: calls $1
CodeRed1: calls $1
----- FLOP ----- [2c 6c 6d]
CodeRed1: bets $1
Buck: folds
Tjalfe sits back
scscoach: calls $1
tomvv: folds
----- TURN ----- [2c 6c 6d][9h]
CodeRed1: bets $2
scscoach: calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [2c 6c 6d 9h][3h]
CodeRed1: bets $2
scscoach: calls $2
hand 3
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to CodeRed1 [4d 4h]
WNTFBS: folds
ryans: folds
CodeRed1: calls $1
Armbro: folds
Beldar: folds
Buck: folds
luckyluc: calls $1
Cakke: folds
tomvv: raises $1
CodeRed1: calls $1
luckyluc: calls $1
----- FLOP ----- [3c 6h 5d]
tomvv: bets $1
CodeRed1: raises $2
luckyluc: folds
tomvv: raises $2
CodeRed1: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [3c 6h 5d][9s]
tomvv: bets $2
CodeRed1: calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [3c 6h 5d 9s][9h]
tomvv: bets $2
CodeRed1: folds
hand 4
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to CodeRed1 [Qd Kd]
DustinB: folds
Evil_eyed joins the table at seat #2
XRoK: calls $1
arvey: folds
4ofakind: folds
MOGWAI: folds
lawng3: folds
CodeRed1: raises $1.50
lindy11: calls $1
XRoK: calls $1
----- FLOP ----- [3s 2d Qh]
CodeRed1: bets $1
lindy11: folds
XRoK: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [3s 2d Qh][Tc]
lindy11 leaves the table
CodeRed1: bets $2
XRoK: raises $4
CodeRed1: raises $4
XRoK: calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [3s 2d Qh Tc][5h]
CodeRed1: bets $2
XRoK: calls $2
hand 5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to CodeRed1 [Td Ts]
Tjalfe: calls $1
CodeRed1: raises $2
Buck: folds
scscoach: folds
tomvv: folds
Topdeck: calls $2
smracine4: folds
BigZeus: folds
Tjalfe: calls $1
----- FLOP ----- [8c Ah 6s]
Tjalfe: bets $1
CodeRed1: raises $2
Topdeck: folds
Tjalfe: calls $1
----- TURN ----- [8c Ah 6s][9s]
Tjalfe: checks
CodeRed1: bets $2
Tjalfe: calls $2
----- RIVER ----- [8c Ah 6s 9s][9d]
Dragon011 joins the table at seat #6
Tjalfe: checks
CodeRed1: checks
thanks
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Fnord
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Hand 1: Raise or fold pre-flop. Open-calling in that spot sucks. Well played post-flop.
Hand 2: River bluff is opponent-dependent. Looks like he's commited to calling you down with something like TT/AK/AQ
Hand 3: I would call the river against most opponents and expect to see AK/AQ or all sorts of silly holdings often enough. One of the more important skills I've found as I've moved past 2/4 is recognising when not much of a hand is doing pretty well.
Hand 4: I usually just call-preflop, particularly if XRoK doesn't like to raise pre-flop and could be holding AK/AQ/KQ. Turn is rather aggro considering what he's representing, but it worked out for you this time.
Hand 5: Sometimes I just fold the flop. Sometimes I check the turn and call the river. Otherwise, well played.
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Hand 1: Raise preflop, try for a check raise on the flop. Lead the turn and reraise, calling down the rest of the way if he caps the turn.
Hand 2: When I know I will bluff the river if a blank hits, as a variation I occasionally (maybe 10% of the time) check-call the flop and check-raise the turn when playing from the blinds if the flop holds a paired baby. A thinking player may lay down a better hand, especially if he has only high cards. Most times I'd play it like you did or check-fold the river.
Hand 3: I would fold preflop unless the table is pretty loose-passive preflop. Having limped, fold the river if opponent is passive, call if he's aggressive.
Hand 4: I probably would have just called down after his turn raise.
Hand 5: Fold the flop against a passive player, otherwise I play it the same as you.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by koolmoe
Hand 1: Raise preflop, try for a check raise on the flop. Lead the turn and reraise, calling down the rest of the way if he caps the turn.
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Not sure I like the flop c/r outside of exceptional circumstances. With no pre-flop raise there is a pretty good chance no one has a hand they would want to call that board with. Even if you don't take it down on the flop, some idiot may call the flop then get cold feet on the turn. If it gets checked through then you're left with a dry pot which is bad both if you hit or if you miss.
edit: Also, with a C/R you're isolating one player (likely with an Ace or another flush draw) and often tieing them to the pot. With a flush draw you're best off if either no one calls or everyone calls.
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hand 1:
open limping is ok in a passive table. J9s plays fairly well against many opponents. well played postflop.
hand 2:
ugly hand, but i don't mind what you did.
hand 3:
you are open ended, you do not want to raise to thin the field. you want many opponents to stay in with you.
hand 4:
turn raises usually represent at least top pair good kicker, and in this situation they might have hit 2 pair. i call it down from here.
hand 5:
i bet this river
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elipsesjeff
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hand 1: raise or fold preflop, good post flop play
hand 2: I probably wouldve check/folded the river if i think i couldn't get this guy to fold. He probably has a deuce to beat you (or any card higher than a J )
hand 3: I would raise here, theres a good chance he can take down the pot here with a $hitty board. I would call down this guy because the only hand he would raise you preflop would either be two overs are a large pocket pair. I say you got 50-50 chance or more that he doesnt have large pocket pair. I've cracked AK here several times. Its also a situational read, you want to know his raising standards
hand 4: I like the turn aggro, i wouldve just called it down.
hand 5: well played, you got him scared, he could just be betting to be betting, but most likely you're beat by his Axo.
hand 6: Keep them coming!!!
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koolmoe
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by koolmoe
Hand 1: Raise preflop, try for a check raise on the flop. Lead the turn and reraise, calling down the rest of the way if he caps the turn.
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Not sure I like the flop c/r outside of exceptional circumstances. With no pre-flop raise there is a pretty good chance no one has a hand they would want to call that board with. Even if you don't take it down on the flop, some idiot may call the flop then get cold feet on the turn. If it gets checked through then you're left with a dry pot which is bad both if you hit or if you miss.
edit: Also, with a C/R you're isolating one player (likely with an Ace or another flush draw) and often tieing them to the pot. With a flush draw you're best off if either no one calls or everyone calls.
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With five players seeing the flop , I want to get in a check raise for value. What I don't want is to give someone holding an A a chance to raise to thin the field, preventing worse hands from financing my draw. Lots of times the CO or button will put in a position bet out of principle. I'd rather give the EP players a chance to call one bet rather than two.
If a LP player bets and everyone after him folds, then I would call rather than raise.
Of course, if you raise preflop there may not be five players in the pot, and play would change from there.
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gabe
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in reference to the first hand, i'm guessing its considered an open-limp even if someone posted a blind (not accounting two players next to the button) in front of you?
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