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TylerK

07-19-2005, 06:03 PM Post subject: Small Blind Play

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Just a short survey, I'm interested to see where people fall on preflop play from the SB. If you read other people's answers before writing your reply, you ruin all the fun.

Edit: I am assuming a 1/2 blind structure, feel free to note exceptions for a 1/3 structure if you like.

1. Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

, A

.
7 folds, Hero ...?

2. Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, A

.
3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, ...?

3. Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, 9

. CO posts a blind of $2.
3 folds, MP2 raises, 1 fold, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, Hero ...?

4. Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, 5

.
7 folds, Hero ...?

5. Preflop: Hero is SB with 5

, 8

.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button raises, Hero ...?

6. Preflop: Hero is SB with 9

, 8

. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, Button raises, Hero ...?

7. Preflop: Hero is SB with 3

, 4

.
UTG calls, 5 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero ...?

8. Preflop: Hero is SB with 4

, 2

.
4 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero ...?

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elipsesjeff

07-19-2005, 06:29 PM

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Personally, I dont fold any one of those.

1) Raise
2) Call
3) Call
4) Raise (or fold if BB is an aggressive/good defender)
5) Call
6) Call
7) Call
8) Call

How many of those would you have flopped a flush/straight draw Tyler? I love calling shitty suited connectors from the SB in a 1/2 blind structure facing many opponents for a raise.

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TylerK

07-19-2005, 06:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

How many of those would you have flopped a flush/straight draw Tyler? I love calling shitty suited connectors from the SB in a 1/2 blind structure facing many opponents for a raise.

You know me better than to think I'm focusing on hands where I Would Have Flopped Big(tm). I picked these ones since I thought in most cases the decision was at least somewhat interesting and/or close preflop. I think I played most of them, but I'll put up my answers after I get a few more replies.

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ChezJ

07-19-2005, 07:01 PM

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1. offer to chop. raise if refused.
2. call.
3. call.
4. offer to chop. fold if refused.
5. fold despite multiway action. UTG/UTG+1 may 3-bet.
6. call.
7. call.
8. probably fold.

koolmoe

07-19-2005, 09:23 PM Post subject: Re: Small Blind Play

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

1. Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

, A

.
7 folds, Hero ...?

Raise

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

2. Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, A

.
3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, ...?

Call

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

3. Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, 9

. CO posts a blind of $2.
3 folds, MP2 raises, 1 fold, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, Hero ...?

Fold

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

4. Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, 5

.
7 folds, Hero ...?

Depends. Against a loose passive opponent I call.
Against a tight aggressive opponent I raise or fold depending on how active I have been stealing his blinds for the last couple of orbits.
Against a loose aggressive opponent I fold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

5. Preflop: Hero is SB with 5

, 8

.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button raises, Hero ...?

Fold

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

6. Preflop: Hero is SB with 9

, 8

. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, Button raises, Hero ...?

Call

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

7. Preflop: Hero is SB with 3

, 4

.
UTG calls, 5 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero ...?

Call

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

8. Preflop: Hero is SB with 4

, 2

.
4 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero ...?

Fold

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chardrian

07-19-2005, 09:37 PM Post subject: Re: Small Blind Play

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerK

Just a short survey, I'm interested to see where people fall on preflop play from the SB. If you read other people's answers before writing your reply, you ruin all the fun.

Edit: I am assuming a 1/2 blind structure, feel free to note exceptions for a 1/3 structure if you like.

1. Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

, A

.
7 folds, Hero ...?

2. Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, A

.
3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, ...?

3. Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, 9

. CO posts a blind of $2.
3 folds, MP2 raises, 1 fold, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, Hero ...?

4. Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, 5

.
7 folds, Hero ...?

5. Preflop: Hero is SB with 5

, 8

.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button raises, Hero ...?

6. Preflop: Hero is SB with 9

, 8

. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, Button raises, Hero ...?

7. Preflop: Hero is SB with 3

, 4

.
UTG calls, 5 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero ...?

8. Preflop: Hero is SB with 4

, 2

.
4 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero ...?

1) Raise

2) Generally call - but raise purty often too

3) Fold

4) Fold or raise (depending on how well stealing is working for ya)

5) Fold

6) How often are all these other foolios gonna automatically call the raise? I gotta say I generally call this one (is this a leak??).

7) 1/2 I complete more often than fold, 1/3 I lean more towards folding (but i complete this sometimes too).

8) Fold

chardrian

07-19-2005, 09:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

What if blind is 1/3 or 2/5?

Gatlin Dan

07-20-2005, 03:00 AM

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1. raise
2. cal
3. call
4. raise
5. call
6. call
7. call
8. call

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Nehmer

07-20-2005, 05:13 AM

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1. Raise
2. Call
3. Fold
4. Depends on who is BB, but usually fold.
5. Fold
6. Fold
7. Call
8. Fold

As you can tell, I probably tend to play tighter than most in the SB

Fnord

07-20-2005, 12:08 PM

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1. Raise
2. Call
3. Call if MP2 is aggro and the other players really suck, fold if he's a tight raiser
4. Fold unless the BB is weak/tight or the game is unraked.
5. Fold
6. Call
7. Fold
8. Fold

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Fnord

07-20-2005, 12:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

I love calling shitty suited connectors from the SB in a 1/2 blind structure facing many opponents for a raise.

I hate playing draws out of position. No cheap/free cards and I have to play guesing games when I hit.

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Jay67s

07-20-2005, 02:43 PM

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1. Raise
2. Raise/Call mostly call
3. Fold
4. completes mostly/ will raise a tight BB
5. Fold
6. Call
7. Fold
8. Fold

Didn't read the other post yet.

Element187

07-20-2005, 03:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChezJ

1. offer to chop. raise if refused.

AHAHA .. that is sneaky... whatever gets calls i guess.

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RiverMonkey

07-20-2005, 06:01 PM

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1. Easy Raise
2. Call
3. Raiser's PFR stds. apply. Fold or Call.
4. @B&M offer to chop .... online Raise or Call depending on opponent
5. Fold Most of the time, Call rarely, and only if Button is super loose with PFRs
6. Call, with an occasional Raise (less than ~10% of the time) thrown in to mix it up
7. Fold .... Pots is small, and this is a weak draw out of position
8. Easy Fold.

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