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thenonsequitur
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01-03-2005, 03:10 PM
Post subject: Slowplay here?
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Full House
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6-max limit. I am dealt [ Kd Kc ]. I raise and only the big blind calls. Flop is [ Qd, 8h, Jc ]. Big blind bets. Raise here, or wait until the turn to raise? I usually don't slowplay overpairs, but I wasn't sure what to do in this case.
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Sed
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I would raise to see if he actually has something or is trying to push you out
-sed
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steviebrutal
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Because of the coordinated board (possible straight) I would raise to protect your hand. If he calls, its likely he hit that Q and has a weak-marginal kicker. If he reraises id expect him to have QJ or Q8, probably suited. Theres inside chance that if he reraises that he has T9s, which is a hand I see called with often in 6max games ive been playing.
Either way, I think you have to raise here to protect your hand because you are probably ahead.
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Definitely raise, gotta either make the drawing hands pay to try to catch, or chunk them out altogether.
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ChezJ
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deja vu... i got heads up vs the BB last week holding JJ and flopped 89Q. called her down and she had JT. seems inconceivable but these things happen. at least yours is an overpair, go ahead and raise and hope the BB doesn't re-raise. slowplaying is wrong in this spot.
ChezJ
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Fnord
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Save the slow play for the 100/200 game.
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Fnord
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Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is UTG with 6 , 6 .
Fnord calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO raises, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Fnord calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.
Flop: (13.50 SB) 4 , 3 , 4 (6 players)
Fnord checks intending to raise, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.
Turn: (6.75 BB) 6 (6 players)
Fnord bets, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds.
River: (9.75 BB) 2 (3 players)
Fnord bets, MP1 folds, MP3 raises, Fnord 3-bets, MP3 caps, Fnord calls.
Final Pot: 17.75 BB
Results in white below:
Fnord has 6s 6h (full house, sixes full of fours).
MP3 has 3d 4c (full house, fours full of threes).
Outcome: Fnord wins 17.75 BB.
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steviebrutal
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is UTG with 6  , 6  .
Fnord calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO raises, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Fnord calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.
Flop: (13.50 SB) 4  , 3  , 4 (6 players)
Fnord checks intending to raise, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.
Turn: (6.75 BB) 6 (6 players)
Fnord bets, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds.
River: (9.75 BB) 2 (3 players)
Fnord bets, MP1 folds, MP3 raises, Fnord 3-bets, MP3 caps, Fnord calls.
Final Pot: 17.75 BB
Results in white below:
Fnord has 6s 6h (full house, sixes full of fours).
MP3 has 3d 4c (full house, fours full of threes).
Outcome: Fnord wins 17.75 BB.
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whats your BB/100 nowadays?
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ChezJ
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Full House
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LOL! MP3's play is wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin. All I can say is, he got what he deserved.
ChezJ
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Toasty
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lol its all the wannabes seeing Negreanu calling with 64o and stuff on the WPT
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