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Old 09-02-2006, 06:00 AM     Post subject: Shrug, these hands confuse me.. #1 (permalink)  
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No reads, villian has only been on table for a few hands.

FullTiltPoker Game #959293891: Table Sedwick (6 max) - $1/$2 - Limit Hold'em - 1:32:29 ET - 2006/09/02
Seat 1: Ha Ji Ma ($42.50)
Seat 2: PokerCub0131 ($76.25)
Seat 3: twogreen2c ($38.75)
Seat 4: badlooser ($0), is sitting out
Seat 5: Basileus ($39)
Seat 6: hartlis1 ($53)
Basileus posts the small blind of $0.50
hartlis1 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hartlis1 [6s 4d]
Ha Ji Ma folds
PokerCub0131 has 15 seconds left to act
PokerCub0131 folds
twogreen2c calls $1
Basileus folds
hartlis1 checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 9d 4c]
hartlis1 bets $1
twogreen2c calls $1
*** TURN *** [9c 9d 4c] [6d]
hartlis1 bets $2
twogreen2c raises to $4
badlooser stands up
hartlis1 calls $2
*** RIVER *** [9c 9d 4c 6d] [Ad]
hartlis1 checks
twogreen2c bets $2
hartlis1 calls $2

I should have dumped this hand earlier, correct? What should be changed here? God this stuff throws me off sometimes..
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Old 09-02-2006, 08:31 AM #2 (permalink)  
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fold the turn
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Old 09-05-2006, 03:35 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Your hand didn't improve at the turn as much as you might be led to believe. Fold against the raise as you are beating nothing that raises you here.
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Old 09-07-2006, 06:40 PM #4 (permalink)  
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3 pair is no good?

Unless your opp is known as very loose and/or known to semi-bluff turns you need to fold this turn.
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Old 09-07-2006, 06:53 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Once he calls the flop and you don't improve, you're done putting money in the pot. I prefer not to bet out the ass end of trip flops out of position. I pretend I missed the flop. It just gets you in too much trouble than it's worth.
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Once he calls the flop and you don't improve, you're done putting money in the pot. I prefer not to bet out the ass end of trip flops out of position. I pretend I missed the flop. It just gets you in too much trouble than it's worth.
You're missing value against most players then. This is 6 handed - and we have no reason to put our opp on a super tight range when he calls that flop after he limped preflop with position.

His call on the flop means almost nothing as most/many players will call that flop with two overcards (or even any two cards). The turn helped us, it didn't hurt us, so fire again - this is where many players who miss their chase will now fold, but you will often still get chasers who just call... When he raises your turn you now can tighten his range way up and now is when you can give it up.
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