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chris222
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07-09-2005, 09:21 AM
Post subject: Scary Hand - Did I play it right?
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Hey all, I don't know how to do the hand history thing but here's what happened at Party 3/6:
I am first to act after the blinds with AA and raise
4 callers and button re-raises
I cap at $12 and everyone calls, total 6 players preflop
Flop comes Q-2-2 rainbow
I bet 3, guy next to me makes it 6, someone folds, everyone else calls 6, I make it 9, and the guy next to me caps it and everyone calls
I am fearing QQ.
Turn is a blank. I check, guy next to me bets, someone folds, everyone else calls, I raise, guy next to me re-raises, everyone calls, I call.
Now I am really fearing QQ.
River is a blank I check, guy next to me bets, everyone calls, I call.
Result: I took it down with my Aces.
The guy next to me had AQ, someone else had Q9, and someone else had 55. I was certainly scared of QQ or like A2s.
I wanted to know with all the betting going on if I played this hand correctly, if not, what would you guys have done differently?
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thenonsequitur
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07-09-2005, 09:49 AM
Post subject: Re: Scary Hand - Did I play it right?
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Hi and welcome to the forum!
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Originally Posted by chris222
Hey all, I don't know how to do the hand history thing but here's what happened at Party 3/6:
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Read the following thread:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=3963
It's the forum posting guidelands and contains a link to the hand history converter and explanation for how to use it.
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for this situation i'm already in call down mode after the flop. you capped preflop. villain caps after your 3bet on the flop, and bets out again on the turn. i'm already calling down after that.
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TylerK
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I'd be more likely to put him on KK instead of QQ...most players with QQ are likely to smooth call at least the flop with an almost unbeatable hand.
You need to protect your hand on the turn. Even if you are ahead of the raiser, the raiser and the rest of the field may have a not-insignificant number of outs to beat you. The pot is large, you need to protect your hand. The best way to do that is to lead the turn, hopefully the raiser raises again and faces the rest of the field with 2 big bets cold.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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Originally Posted by TylerK
You need to protect your hand on the turn.
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betting out won't protect your hand. you need the help of the villian's raise to protect your hand (which he woulda done). nonetheless, the pot is big enough that people after can still call profitably with reasonable draws.
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TylerK
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
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Originally Posted by TylerK
You need to protect your hand on the turn.
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betting out won't protect your hand. you need the help of the villian's raise to protect your hand (which he woulda done). |
That's what I'm saying dude.
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
nonetheless, the pot is big enough that people after can still call profitably with reasonable draws.
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I'm too lazy to count the pot here, but I imagine it's still small enough that a bet and a raise on 4th shuts down 5-outers and less.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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Fnord
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I like it.
What the hell hand has 4 outs on this board?
My only concern is some idiot with 2x, which is the kind of thing you can figure out with some information on pre-flop standards. Even if QQ/2x is out you still have 2 outs in a big pot.
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elipsesjeff
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I'd probably Cap the flop as AQ would go for a check raise here. You have to believe your hand is good until you get a raise on teh turn or river. I'm discounting most flop raises in this situation as TPTK at best.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I'd probably Cap the flop as AQ would go for a check raise here. You have to believe your hand is good until you get a raise on teh turn or river. I'm discounting most flop raises in this situation as TPTK at best.
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Yeah, some large % of the time QQ or 2x is going to try some sort of lame slow-play. Hence, there is a higher chance your action is from Qx or worse.
Don't get scared of anything. If they got it, more often than not I'm paying it off and smiling (unless I got a read.) Online games are too aggro not to...
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ender555
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i would call it down on the turn personally. although it would be rare for someone to be all out betting a flopped fullhouse like that. I would if everyone was willing to join in like they did, i guess you just have to know your table.
nice pot for you..
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poskid_1982
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Yeah, some large % of the time QQ or 2x is going to try some sort of lame slow-play. Hence, there is a higher chance your action is from Qx or worse.
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Yeah...and because of this a c/r on the turn was probably not the best play. 1st - you can only simply call a 3-bet giving too much info about your hand. 2nd - A LP player could use a semi-bluff raise on the river to squeeze you out of the pot with a Q.
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Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
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Element187
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Originally Posted by ender555
i would call it down on the turn personally. although it would be rare for someone to be all out betting a flopped fullhouse like that. I would if everyone was willing to join in like they did, i guess you just have to know your table.
nice pot for you..
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if i had a fullhouse here, i would not slowplay it for this very reason.. but the usual donk will slow play it here.
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