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Old 08-14-2005, 06:52 AM     Post subject: The saturday night monkeys win again! (lc) #1 (permalink)  
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You just can't beat play like this:

Villian #1
VP$IP: 37.50%
PFR: 10.94%
BB/100: 7.01

Villian #2
VP$IP: 57.66%
PFR: 20.72%
BB/100: 29.98

And then of course my stats:
VP$IP: 16.19%
PFR: 5.75%
BB/100: (3.40)

this is all from just the last 2 days. I know all those should be higher...but that's really only going to happen if I 3 bet hands like J8o. It's raised before me everytime it gets to me.

Funny things:
KK (7 times) (0.44) BB/hand
QQ (6 times) (1.63) BB/hand

yeah yeah yeah...sample sizes sample sizes sample sizes sample sizes. It still sucks and I'm just amazed at how these seemingly bad players do so well. Wasn't even bad beats or suck outs. Just missed flops mainly.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:20 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Isnt your PFR a little low?

I don't know any stats for limit, but 5 is satisfactory for NL and you'd assume you'd need something like 10 to stay afloat at limit. Am I crazy?

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Old 08-14-2005, 03:35 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Isnt your PFR a little low?
It is- looks like he's getting bunk cards, because I'm sure he usually raises more than that. I'm normally a 16/9 but a lot of times when I'm running real bad I look like an 11/4 or something.

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5 is satisfactory for NL
NL is so boring. :P
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Old 08-14-2005, 04:06 PM #4 (permalink)  
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rilla, the PFR should go up as you increase in limits. At higher limits, a 10% PFR is good.

My PFR goal right now is about 7% and I hate to say it, but those last stats just have to be "bunk cards." Those stats are over 2,000 hands though.

It's also easier to have a higher PFR at higher limits because it's very often folded to you when you have a playable hand.

I think I have 2 parts to my PFR problem. First, it's very often raised before me, and then the number of hands that I can play goes down considerably since I pretty much have to 3 bet them. Second, I have trouble with what hands to raise with when there are several limpers before me. My cut off is usually the big suited cards like AQs, AJs and KQs. Anything less and I'm usually just limping in as well.

I also know I have a problem with medium to low pocket pairs. I've tried all kinds of things with them. Villian #2 up there raised any pocket pair, or cold called if it was raised before him. There are a LOT of players that do this cold call with any pocket pair, and then slow play it until the turn if they hit a set, or call down to the river just in case you had a missed AK. I'm pretty sure this is -EV, but it's frustrating sometimes.
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