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TylerK
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07-05-2005, 10:47 PM
Post subject: Sanity check - this look ok?
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4-of-a-Kind
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Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is BB with K , K .
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 5 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls, SB calls.
Flop: (10 SB) T, 6, 3 (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Button calls, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, Button calls, SB calls.
Turn: (11 BB) 9 (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG calls, Button folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.
River: (20 BB) 5 (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Final Pot: 23 BB
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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Zinnsoldaten
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I think you're dead with that amount of players and the look of the action from the SB. This is probably one of those places where you could save yourself from wasting 2BBs.
Is it right to calculate this as 23:2 = you have to win about 9% of the time for this to be profitable?
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TylerK
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I hate to think the 2nd nuts wouldn't be good THAT rarely. 3rd nuts actually. Meh.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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Nehmer
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I play it exactly the same way.
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euphoricism
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Originally Posted by Nehmer
I play it exactly the same way.
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Phyl
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Flush
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Looks good.
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StinkyBeaver
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Flush
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it may be good, but not that good. Unless SB is a maniac then he's not 3-betting the queen of diamonds or lower on a fourflush board. Remember you made the pf raise so he "knows" that theres a good chance that you have high cards.
Can you think of anyone who will 3-bet this board without an ace or king of diamonds, besides maniacs I cannot.
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TylerK
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Originally Posted by StinkyBeaver
it may be good, but not that good. Unless SB is a maniac then he's not 3-betting the queen of diamonds or lower on a fourflush board. Remember you made the pf raise so he "knows" that theres a good chance that you have high cards.
Can you think of anyone who will 3-bet this board without an ace or king of diamonds, besides maniacs I cannot.
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On Party 2/4? I can think of people who will 3-bet this board with pocket jacks and NO diamond.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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Phyl
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Originally Posted by StinkyBeaver
it may be good, but not that good. Unless SB is a maniac then he's not 3-betting the queen of diamonds or lower on a fourflush board. Remember you made the pf raise so he "knows" that theres a good chance that you have high cards.
Can you think of anyone who will 3-bet this board without an ace or king of diamonds, besides maniacs I cannot.
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He only has to be good 9% of the time to call down after the turn 3-bet. SB will be going nuts with a lower diamond or an other inferior hand often enough.
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StinkyBeaver
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well probably your both right, but its a pretty close one. you are not givin up on much folding on the turn 3-bet. At least thats what I think. But sure enough one in 50 or one in 100 just go for the bet, bet bet raise raise raise strategy....
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G_host
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Straight
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On party 2/4 you good for more than 9%, so it looks ok for me.
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elipsesjeff
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Anyone who wouldn't play it this way is way too weak/passive.
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Fnord
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I can laydown to the turn 3-bet, but I want a read to do it. I think you can be 95% certain you're beat here against typical opposition. UTG's cold call on the turn is interesting and I also want to know more about what range he'd play like that.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
Anyone who wouldn't play it this way is way too weak/passive.
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I think the turn raise is kinda bad, if the pot was smaller it would be really horrible.
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StinkyBeaver
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Well I must withdraw my first first post in this hand.
Calling down could very well be plus EV. SO what has changed my mind, well take a look at this hand. It has made me wonder wether I call down enough I might be folding a few hands that would have taken down the pot.
I really really didn't like my river call, but I did it even though I have no reads on this guy (can't remember his stats from PE) desperation/crying call I guess.
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, A. MP1 posts a blind of $2. Hero posts a blind of $3. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG raises, 3 folds, Hero (poster) 3-bets, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.
Flop: (12.50 SB) A, K, 9 (3 players)
SB bets, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, SB caps, UTG calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (12.25 BB) 6 (3 players)
SB bets, UTG folds, Hero calls.
River: (14.25 BB) 4 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 16.25 BB
Results in white below:
SB has Jd 7d (high card, ace).
Hero has Kh Ad (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 16.25 BB.
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Fnord
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I see no reason to think he has a spade often enough to fold 2 pair there. Consider that he's played the entire hand fast suggesting he made something on the flop.
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