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Greedo017
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08-30-2005, 05:40 AM
Post subject: river move?
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Full House
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did i do this hand right?
Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q , T.
UTG calls, 4 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero completes, BB raises, UTG calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.
Flop: (8 SB) J , 9, K (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG calls, MP3 folds, Hero calls.
Turn: (5.50 BB) 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG calls.
River: (11.50 BB) T (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls, BB caps, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 22.50 BB
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Maybe raise the flop and lead the turn? Loses a small bet most of the time, saves two big bets some of the time.
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Hate
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2005
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I'd have played it the same, calling flop and raising the turn.Is that bad?
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thenonsequitur
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Full House
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He raised from the big blind. This usually represents an unusually strong hand. If he has AK, AA, KK, or JJ, he will pay you off nicely. Also, this is a very cooridinated board. If he has a flush draw or straight draw he will also pay you off (thought not quite as nicely).
With such a wide variety of hands that will raise you, I bet/raise/reraise as much as possible, leading every street. Also, because of the highly coordinated board, you really don't want to give free cards. In addition, people at 2/4 don't expect such strong aggression on the flop when you flop the nuts. They expect you to check/call the flop and check/raise the turn with a hand like this, so your play is very transparent. If you bet the flop, they will certainly not put you on a straight, making them even more likely to pay you off.
EDIT: If I've been bet/raising all the way through, and get raised on the river when the T falls, I just call the raise; at this point you are likely splitting to Qx or losing to AQ.
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Ltrain
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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I would checkraise the flop and bet out from there. Great flop... for now. The problem is if an A,Q, or T hits you have a lot of players in the pot and probably are chopping (did you split this pot?), or at worst losing to the nut straight. Also, there is a flush possibility which would cripple you. Although it looks great, your hand is actually quite vulnerable and you want to make people pay for the draws that can beat you.
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Fnord
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Nice hand.
It doesn't much matter how you play it. I think your line is fine, although worse hand will tend to be more inclined to play back at you if you get something started on the flop.
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