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07-31-2008, 06:37 AM Post subject: River decision thread

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This is a thread about bet/call vs. check/call lines. I tried to take the check/call line more often as per advice in other threads, but I also tried to bet/call the station for obvious reasons.

1:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

, A

.
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 4 folds, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 8

, A

(5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) 4

(3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, Button calls.

River: (7 BB) 5

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

2:
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8

, J

.
UTG calls, 6 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 5

, J

, 4

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (4.50 BB) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q

, A

.
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) Q

, T

, J

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) T

(2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (5.75 BB) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB

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07-31-2008, 08:24 AM

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i usually bet/fold if a guy is ultra passive and bet/call or c/c against a normal/agg villian, depends on my hand strenght and the way the hand was played.

07-31-2008, 09:11 AM

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so uh no comments on the hands?

Jan

07-31-2008, 09:59 AM

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well the first hand the button and the utg didnt had a ace or else they would show some strength on the flop or turn imo. so i would definetly bet for value on the river becouse only a runner runner straight can beat you or a passivly played full house. yeah def. bet the river.

2nd hand: the check is fine becouse the river completes a lot of straights and a flush also and a lot of 2 pair possibilities. is 78, 65,64 in his utg limp standards and how far does he go with it? hope i made any sense

07-31-2008, 10:51 AM

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Hand 1 flush came on the river

Jan

07-31-2008, 11:09 AM

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ups sorry, was scrolling through the hands up and down and totally misread it

. yeah a c/c looks better now that i see the hand.

07-31-2008, 01:49 PM

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4:
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K

, A

.
4 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) K

, 2

, 8

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

, K

.
6 folds, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) K

, 7

, 6

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q

, J

.
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 4

, T

, J

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 8

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 2

(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Chopper

07-31-2008, 03:14 PM

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thanks for posting this, iopq. but, this is where i will get put to the test by the others.

1...i c/c here. i dont want to see a raise. but, to me, this is close because there are 3 players in. is either of them passive? is one passive and one aggressive? these reads are important, and i would like to see you post them. they make a difference. i will not c/c a passive. i b/f them on flush boards like this because they will call with worse, but wont bluff with worse.

2...again, if villain is passive, its a b/f, to me. if aggro, i like it.

3... need reads. only the true call station calls a bet here. i dont think there's any point in betting this hand for value. i think only better would call. however, i dont think worse bluffs here, either. it may even be a c/f.

4...yes. bet/call.

5...i think you scared the crap out of him on flop. since he didnt raise, you may as well bet this river. he is too afraid to run a bluff on you, as its obvious you arent going to fold.

6...absolutely have to bet this river. look at all the c/calling? no way he has you beat, imo.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

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07-31-2008, 05:21 PM

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1) Sucks to overcall but hand's too good to fold. Consider a bet/call? Gets calls from all those non-believers with pps and 8x. And not that many hands that beat us here so calling a raise is ok imo.

2) You think he has a 3 or bd flush? if he does that's pretty funny. Bet please. Think carefully about folding to a raise.

3) What can you do? You've effectively got third pair and he's not calling with a draw. Check and hope to induce a bluff.

4) Absolutement. He's not cold calling preflop with an 8 or 22 then waiting till the river to raise nearly as often as he has a worse K or smaller pp.

5) Again, nothing to be afraid of here. He will pay you off with a worse K, 7x, a smaller pp, and sometimes A high. Let him.

6) Easy value bet. If he raises, call. Even Doyle Brunson would've folded T2 on the turn.

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07-31-2008, 05:42 PM

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7:
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Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, 8

.
4 folds, Button raises, Hero calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 3

, 9

, A

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (6.50 BB) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T

, K

.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 6 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) K

, 7

, 3

(3 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (2.75 BB) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: (2.75 BB) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 2.75 BB

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K

, Q

.
Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8

, J

, 8

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

DrivingDog

07-31-2008, 06:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iopq

7:
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, 8

.
4 folds, Button raises, Hero calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 3

, 9

, A

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (6.50 BB) K

, K

.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 6 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) K

, 7

, 3

(3 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (2.75 BB) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

River: (2.75 BB) 8

, Q

.
Hero raises, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 8

, J

, 8

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

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07-31-2008, 07:43 PM

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Hand 7 I was afraid of how weak it was + flush draw came in
Hand 8 should have went for the check because no hand worse can call afraid of the flush, it might be check/fold even because the pot is so small
Hand 9 I could be getting slowplayed so I might as well check/call instead of putting one bet myself

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07-31-2008, 11:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iopq

I think your reasoning is pretty sensible. There may some points to ponder as well:

7) flush draw, smush draw. For every one that comes in, two will miss and call anyways. But on this board there are a lot of Ax hands that beat us: A9, A5, A3 . C/c is good i think.

8) Oooh, scary. But what is going to call us here that we beat? K9 (no heart)? Don't bluff boards if you can only beat a bluff. What I mean is there's no value in making a worse hand fold. Check behind and hope he doesn't have 2h .

9) Ka- ching! Ha ha he bluffed J9 9/10 times here. You can also b/f against a smart player and b/c against a good/tricky/stupid one.

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08-01-2008, 01:20 AM

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Great post! I need some help on hand 9 though, isn't it better to lead here? We've got plenty of hands we're ahead of that will still pay us off and aren't AQo and QJ the only hands we're afraid of against most opponents? Wouldn't quite a few agg opponents try a river bluff raise with many of the hands we're up against (like 1010, 99 - although it begs the question why not reraise the flop if agg, J10, J9, Q10, Q9, K10s, or even ace high)? I see some crazy river raises at these levels. Or will c/c induce enough bluffs to make up for the lost value bet calls we get from leading against passive opponents?

08-01-2008, 06:18 AM

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Hand 9 the guy was super passive but I didn't have a read on him
if I had known that I would have bet it

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08-01-2008, 09:46 AM

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hmm

08-01-2008, 11:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ukpokermillions

hmm

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08-01-2008, 01:14 PM

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late on the uptake, again. but, here are my thoughts to 7-9...

7...you called two cold w/ A8s! ewwwww!! 3bet or fold. i hope to God you had a "read" on either villain or table to do that. but, anyway...i like b/f or b/c here. spades got there. AT+/KK beat you, but any weaker K is calling. if you induce, i dont see it being a bluff often. bet, then decide. villain shouldnt be folding now HU. personally, if i play A8s here, it isnt against anyone other than a VERY aggro opponent, and i am not folding. however, i am not raising. i want him to 3barrel me all day long because it opens that range way up.

8...not bad, i guess. i dont bet this river, though. 4 card boards suck with 2nd pair. i cant see another A or a better K folding here. besides, what are you doing if you get raised? seems like a great spot for villain to bluff raise your river donk.

9...i just go for value on that river. i dont see what you induce, but it looks like you got one to bite. however, c/c and leading out are definitely about the same here, as you previously mentioned.

thats my $.02.

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Chopper

08-01-2008, 01:18 PM

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Dog, i would like to see your take on hand 9's c/c vs b/c//b/f lines. is inducing better than just leading? i cant see J9 raising if we lead, so does it really gain as much as it loses?

or, is it completely dependent on our villain?

oh, and iopq, if you are being slowplayed, its WAY to villain's detriment. you keep going for your value. if you are aggressive, you are very susceptible to a slow play, but they often miss a bet or two of value when they do it. so, stay aggro, and LET THEM MISS ALL THE VALUE THEY WANT. you win that war because you are indirectly forcing their mistakes. and, when our villains make mistakes, we win.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

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08-01-2008, 02:54 PM

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It's not calling two cold with A8s, I was in the blind
Continuing on:
10: I'm not sure if I am ahead here on the turn
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T

, T

.
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 caps, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (15.50 SB) 4

, 3

, 9

(3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) J

(3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (12.25 BB) 3

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 14.25 BB

11: Is it even worth calling down here? Maybe being a calling station is not the best idea
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 4

, 4

.
3 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.50 SB) 9

, 8

, 9

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (2.25 BB) J

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (4.25 BB) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

12: I saw the ace and I thought "Is this the card he's been looking for?"
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Preflop: Hero is BB with T

, K

.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 7

, K

, 3

(6 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Button folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (6.25 BB) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

DrivingDog

08-01-2008, 03:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chopper

I don't mind a lead out here but I don't see a lot of worse hands calling after you bet the Q turn. In fact, the best play might be to go for a c/r.

Also on hand 7 I didn't look at the preflop action. You should be raising or folding here, usually the former unless Btn is a nit. It's no good letting BB in cheap.

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08-01-2008, 03:14 PM

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10) Not much you can do here. You're oop with a vulnerable hand and can't afford to give free cards on the turn. And I would c/c a single bet on the river too. He just might be bluffing with AK.

11) Tough hand. 44 is pretty good HU and I would prefer a raise preflop here to take control. As played, betting the flop and turn is good and I would consider bet/fold on the river. He might just give up on 8x or 55-77. If you check I don't think you can call a bet.

12) If he doesn't have an Ace, what does he have? Nothing we're beating that will call a bet. I say c/c looks good.

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08-01-2008, 06:21 PM

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Dog, I need some more help with hand 12 too.

I may be way off base here, and this is certainly due to the small limits I play (and the "hey, I've got a pair, that's a good hand to take all the way"), but hand 12 really looks like a mpp to me. The UTG limp combined with a passive call down despite no preflop raise from anyone? A7, A3, and a really passive AQ, AJ, KQ, or a loose KJ are possible too, but without any read for some reason this screams mpp to me (with A7 and A3 being the next most likely). If this hand is against anyone with a half-decent aggression factor (to rule out the bigger holdings) does that change it where leading the river is better?

This might be yet another leak in my game.

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08-01-2008, 07:03 PM

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12) The Ace makes it hard for villian to call with any hand worse than ours. So I suggest the conservative route here which is to check and hope to induce a bluff.

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08-01-2008, 08:03 PM

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1: a read really helps, but against competant players I'd fold this. It's hard to overcall in spots like this because the flush just got there, and the only aces we beat are A2, A3, A6, A7

2: I like a check to induce a bluff

3: I think there is value in a bet-fold line here. He isn't folding a Q. Although if he was hanging on with a low pair and is aggressive, he might bluff now that his hand is counterfeited.

4: good

5: If he's a tougher thinking player I might bet because I would fire again with a whiffed flush draw. He may well have a hand like TT-QQ with one (or no) spade and not fold getting 9.5:1

6: good

7: Villain probably has an ace here, and we dont beat too many of them. check-call is good

8: a read helps, but I dont really know what he could have here. His flop call is most likely a heart, I think he'd raise with a decent king. If he's really loose I suppose he could have limped K9+ in UTG+1 and then just call. I think it all comes down to how often this opponent will bluff the river taking that line. From early position the heart he could be chasing won't be low enough for him to fold on the river.

9: good, your line looks like ace high so he will bet A J or even lower pp here.

10: looks good

11: that ace sucks.. there are so so few hands that we beat now. I probably fold that river.

12: check-call is good

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08-05-2008, 02:33 PM

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I thought I would be able to go through these hands by myself, but I'm getting stumped

13: I would say I played this correctly because I have a strong hand
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K

, K

.
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 5

, J

, 8

(3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 8

(3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO calls.

River: (8.25 BB) T

(3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, CO folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

14: this is kind of on the line my hand is moderately weak
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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9

, Q

.
6 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 8

, 9

, 4

(2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (7.75 BB) J

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB
15: Should I just check any time the top card pairs? Because once he raised I knew he pretty much had the nine most of the time here
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q

, Q

.
3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 9

, 3

, 8

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) J

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

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08-05-2008, 04:24 PM

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As someone who's not nearly as experienced as others and as someone who is admittedly too aggressive on the river, take this with a grain of salt.

I like your line on all 3 hands.

13) Only 1 of the 3 draws came in on the river, the 8s allow you to beat J10. Enough hands will call here that you beat, I'd b/c too.

14) c/c looks good to me. You likely could have been behind the whole time or up against a draw that missed on the river and won't pay you off.

15) Again, looks good. There are enough hands you're ahead of that will pay you off. I'd even expect the river raise may be a missed fd trying to steal the pot a fair portion of the time. The only question I have is, given the board and the likely hands out against us, is it better to check the river to induce a bluff by a missed draw against an agg opponent? Or bet?

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08-05-2008, 05:14 PM

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13: This looks like JT or TT, well played.

14: If villain isn't too passive I bet the river because A high will call a lot given that the 4th club didn't come. That J probably didn't help him.

15: Comes down to a read that this guy won't raise with 9x on the flop. I often c-c in these spots against villains who will interpret my check as weakness and a chance to either bluff a missed draw or bet an 8 (or worse pair).

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08-05-2008, 09:29 PM

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16: I think I misplayed because a worse flush is less likely than a better one, comments?
PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q

, Q

.
Hero raises, 7 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 5

, J

, 6

(2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) J

(2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Chopper

08-05-2008, 10:01 PM

#30 (permalink)

Straight Flush

Join Date: Dec 2005

Location: St. Louis, MO

Posts: 4,255

i dont see how you misplayed this one. you have to go for value. what can you do when he checks to you? he isnt c/r'ing here, as you've shown no aggression.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

okiman

08-05-2008, 11:38 PM

#31 (permalink)

Straight

Join Date: Aug 2007

Posts: 171

I agree w/ Chopper, there are plenty of hands that would play it like this and still have enough strength to call a river bet (especially oop). Ac or Kc are unlikely to check here.

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