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KoRnholio
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11-14-2005, 05:06 AM
Post subject: Regarding Hellmuth's strategy for small pairs
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4-of-a-Kind
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I recently borrowed "Play poker like the pros" written by Phil Hellmuth. In his intermediate section he talks about playing small pairs very aggressively pre-flop. He advocates raising two early position limpers when holding 22, isolating a loose-aggressive player with 33 in order to represent a strong hand on the flop unless it is particularily dangers (such as JT7).
These kind of lines seem far too laggy for my likes (I am fairly loose in my starting requirements when in late position, but would never 3-bet an aggressive guy with 33 in middle position).
What do you guys think of these kinds of lines?
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joshuadzl
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If you keep hammering LAG players, they'll generally fold or just give you all their money.
They only have balls to the turn (most of them) in my experience. Fight fire with fire. I'll often play any two cards against a laggy player because I know chances are I'll outbet them and never showdown.
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Fnord
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It depends 
I LOVE raising small pairs in deep stacked NLHE against tight post-flop players because I rarely will be faced with a difficult decision.
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thirteen
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Originally Posted by dzl
I'll often play any two cards against a laggy player because I know chances are I'll outbet them and never showdown.
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This seams really backwards to me. Seems you'd be playing right into the person just like they want you to.
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KoRnholio
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I LOVE raising small pairs in deep stacked NLHE against tight post-flop players because I rarely will be faced with a difficult decision.
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True, but he was talking about limit hold'em :P
I know in my game I don't play medium pairs 66-99 hard enough, but I can't justify putting in too many bets with 33 unless it's a super tight game and I can pin someone on KQ/AJ+ as opposed to 88+
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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joshuadzl
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Originally Posted by thirteen
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Originally Posted by dzl
I'll often play any two cards against a laggy player because I know chances are I'll outbet them and never showdown.
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This seams really backwards to me. Seems you'd be playing right into the person just like they want you to. |
I'm an idiot, didn't realize this was limit. My apologies for the worthless post.
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WhooFleuryScores
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In NL tourneys it's important late in the game when the blinds are high and people are looking to make the money that you raise PP's preflop.In limit anything under TT I usually just limp or or limp with proper odds and position.Otherwise it can be serious trouble postflop.
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Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores
In NL tourneys it's important late in the game when the blinds are high and people are looking to make the money that you raise PP's preflop.In limit anything under TT I usually just limp or or limp with proper odds and position.Otherwise it can be serious trouble postflop.
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Come on, if you have 99 on the button with two limpers and the flop comes 6-3-T you have to think there's a good chance you have the best hand when it's checked to you...
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