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Old 07-14-2006, 07:47 AM     Post subject: Reading SSH #1 (permalink)  
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 So I finally bought the book and I can tell it fits the game I play in at the casino. I am in the middle of the preflop hand selection tables and I am having some trouble memorizing the hands to play and what to do what with. Any suggestions from anyone who has these hands down pat? I know I don't need to follow them perfectly but I would like to play as well as I can the first few times I go to the casino to see if I need to change the strategy at all.

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Old 07-14-2006, 12:20 PM #2 (permalink)  

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I know what u mean there are a lot of Preflophands.
I think the best thing to do is to get better in postflopgame!

Many players only concentrated on preflophands. I did that too. But then it clicked! Preflophands are important, but the postflopgame win the money.

When u are in the middle of the hands that is enough. Focus on the postflopgame!
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Old 07-14-2006, 01:56 PM #3 (permalink)  
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For memorizing the tables, copy the pages (so you don't ruin your book), play some microlimits online with the pages in front of you to practice the hand selection before going to the casino. After a while, you will have it memorized. Now, after that, sit and really think about WHY you are playing the hands you are playing based on the table. Read Theory of Poker for some assistance if you need it. Then, the best part is you won't need the tables anymore because you will understand what to play and how to play it. If you just keep to the tables, you are not growing as a player.
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Old 07-15-2006, 11:12 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Ltrain is exactly right when he states,

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For memorizing the tables, copy the pages (so you don't ruin your book), play some microlimits online with the pages in front of you to practice the hand selection before going to the casino. After a while, you will have it memorized. Now, after that, sit and really think about WHY you are playing the hands you are playing based on the table. Read Theory of Poker for some assistance if you need it. Then, the best part is you won't need the tables anymore because you will understand what to play and how to play it. If you just keep to the tables, you are not growing as a player.
And don`t be surprised or discouraged if it takes you a couple of months to START to become familiar with this stuff, and with why the guidelines make good sense.
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Old 07-24-2006, 11:10 PM #5 (permalink)  
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That's a good way. But it boils down to this:

1 Don't play any offsuit Garbage. Ace Face, Face Face, and Ace Ten and Face ten only. AQ, and AK, are early and worth a raise, the rest are mid and late and don't play anything other than KQ to a raise.

2. Suited Connectors. JT and up early. any suited connector including a face mid, any suited connector late No suited connector should ever be lower than a 4 (note AxS is NOT inculded here). Mix up raising and just calling depending on not only pure randomness, but also how mnay people are in the pot. Be inclined to raise JT, J9, Q9, Q8 from the button if there are more than 5 people in. (HEPFAP suggests that even if you hit a Q with Q8 and you get bet into , be ready to toss the cards. If they check to you, by all means bet if you get checkraised drop em like they're hot.)

3. Pairs. 77+ early, raise TT and better. the rest mid and late, fold anything worse than TT to a raise unless there are at least 4 others in before you. Strongly consider raising a pair from the button with more than 5 ppl in. If you don't catch your small set, consider it a good investment for the future when they bet into you and you fold.

4. Axs Kxs and Qxs. In the best most passive, loosest games with very few raises (only 1 out of ten pots raised) limp these from anywhere. If the game is a typical SSH table, Middle or later for Axs and Kxs. With a couple of people in front of you. REmember, if you have K5s and you hit your king, Stay in ONLY if you're the first one to bet at it, get out if you aren't. (HEPFAP advice for loose tables NOT from SSH.)

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I'm certain you got bored by about the 2nd bullet and didn't make it any farther. Because it all seems convoluted and overly wordy. But that's because instead of memorizing the charts, memorize the device they gave you to justify the cards and where they belong.
(Read page 57)
1: High Card Strength (Top Pair likelyhood)
2: Suitedness (Flush aptitude)
3: Connectyness (Straights.)

Don't play a hand unless it meets 2 of these requirements. Period.

The more requirements it meets, be more inclined to play the hand earlier, and stronger. AKs is the top of 1 and 2, but not 3. (can't catch anything but a gutshot for qualifier 3 strength) So it's still strong, because it has Connecty-ness, but not great connectyness. JTs is tops for qualifier 3, has decent strength for qualifier 2, and is pure crap for qualifier one. The reason it's so strong for Qualifier 3, is because every which way you make a straight with it, you've got the nuts.

Think about these 3 qualifiers before every hand, and soon you won't need the charts. (Refer to them if you have a question)
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