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elipsesjeff
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02-10-2005, 04:01 AM
Post subject: Reading the Board Part 2
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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J , Q .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, 5 folds, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.
Flop: (7.40 SB) 3 , 8 , 2 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (4.70 BB) 9 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
River: (6.70 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB folds.
Final Pot: 7.70 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Jd Qs (high card, queen).
Outcome: Hero wins 7.70 BB.
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is Button with 2 , 6 .
5 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold.
Flop: (5 SB) T , 2 , 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.
Turn: (3.50 BB) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB folds.
Final Pot: 4.50 BB
Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins 4.50 BB.
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 , 3 .
5 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero calls.
Flop: (4.40 SB) 3 , K , 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (3.20 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.
River: (3.20 BB) K (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.
Final Pot: 5.20 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has 7h 3h (two pair, kings and threes).
CO has As Js (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 5.20 BB.
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 , 5 .
7 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.
Flop: (4 SB) 7 , A , 6 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps, SB calls.
Turn: (6 BB) 2 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB folds.
Final Pot: 9 BB
Results in white below:
No showdown. Hero wins 9 BB.
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Fnord
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...and you guys think I could have any 2 cards in these spots, geesh...
Hand 1: With an UTG limper I give the 3-bet more respect and muck on the flop or turn.
Hand 2: Too loose of a setal for me with no reads.
Hand 3: I let this one go pre-flop. Nice river bet.
Hand 4: I let this go too, although with position it's closer.
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elipsesjeff
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Originally Posted by Fnord
...and you guys think I could have any 2 cards in these spots, geesh...
Hand 1: With an UTG limper I give the 3-bet more respect and muck on the flop or turn.
Hand 2: Too loose of a setal for me with no reads.
Hand 3: I let this one go pre-flop. Nice river bet.
Hand 4: I let this go too, although with position it's closer.
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1) My thinking here was the guy had 2 overs, or, he was trying to 'catch' me stealing. I believe i was representing a pocket pair here. Also, if he had bet on the river I couldn't call. But this guy took FOREVER to check to me so i had to try it.
2)eh, i tried it out; i almost regretted doing it until i saw the flop.
3) I definately smelt a blind steal, and chances he had the K were slim. Also, the freee card on the turn was a dead give away, he couldn't have a worse river card.
4) Dream flop for me. Smelt another steal here, and you know how much i dont like those.
My play in the blinds is awesome over my last 1k hands. I actually have a positive expectation in both the bb and sb. My biggest winner is the sb...
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
My play in the blinds is awesome over my last 1k hands. I actually have a positive expectation in both the bb and sb. My biggest winner is the sb...
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This happens to me too when I'm running really good too. Reminds me of when I started 5/10 6 max and went on a $2k tear. Turning a negative expectation situation into a positive one over the short-run will give you a silly BB/100. Playing this loose from the blinds will kick up your variance and eventually you'll catch the down-draft of missing flops, getting out-kicked, missing draws, etc. The sort of thing that just happens long term when you're forced to play bad cards out of position to recover as much value from your forced bet as possible.
Anyway, I've been working on my blind play a lot lately, as I think it's becomming my biggest oportunity for growth. Also as I play tighter games it becomes much more important.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
1) My thinking here was the guy had 2 overs, or, he was trying to 'catch' me stealing. I believe i was representing a pocket pair here. Also, if he had bet on the river I couldn't call. But this guy took FOREVER to check to me so i had to try it.
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I think the river is great, it's the flop + turn plays that make me cringe.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
3) I definately smelt a blind steal, and chances he had the K were slim. Also, the freee card on the turn was a dead give away, he couldn't have a worse river card.
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I think post-flop is well played. He's got position and a better hand, he's entitled to a profit here. It's your job to keep him in check. 73s isn't the spot I pick to do that.
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
4) Dream flop for me. Smelt another steal here, and you know how much i dont like those.
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You have position, but need to consider your chances of taking it down when you miss or playing out bottom pair.
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