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Old 09-30-2009, 10:43 PM     Post subject: raising a flush draw #1 (permalink)  
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Here's a hand where I did it-- this guy had been over-bluffing and generally FOS with his raises, so this was a fun one:

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, A
Hero raises, 6 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls

Flop: (7.4 SB) 5, J, 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls

Turn: (5.7 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button calls

River: (9.7 BB) K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Total pot: $4.85 (9.7 BB) | Rake: $0.20

Results below:
Button mucked A, 8 (high card, Ace).
Hero had Q, A (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $4.65
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:47 AM     Post subject: Re: raising a flush draw #2 (permalink)  
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Here's a hand where I did it
But for different reasons than your previous flush draw post. This hand was tremendously read dependent.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:21 PM #3 (permalink)  
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not only read dependent, i dont know if i like it a lot.

that c/r is hugely strong, and the maniac could have a weak pair he is overplaying but not folding, a draw, or a monster. i think it risks a 3bet you dont want to see in this spot.

in position, i think i would like it more.

i think i like calling down more since we have showdown value, and not much more. control the pot since he likely has a pretty wide range of hands, including bluffs, he will barrel into us continuously.
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:05 PM     Post subject: Re: raising a flush draw #4 (permalink)  
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Here's a hand where I did it
But for different reasons than your previous flush draw post. This hand was tremendously read dependent.
True. Though it seems to me that given the fact that whatever the equity actually calculates to in a particular hand, you certainly have a "piece" of a pot where you have a flush draw and overcards, it makes it easier / more +EV to make an aggressive play based on a read (i.e., even if the read turns out to be wrong, you still have decent equity / outs). Whereas without the draw, you better be right that the villain is FOS.

In other words, the pot equity concepts that you were discussing with me not only apply to the issue of simply exploiting your equity advantage by raising a draw, but also increase the value of bluffs / semi-bluffs.
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