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drtofu66
Old 07-12-2005, 01:46 PM     Post subject: Raise or just call? #1 (permalink)  
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First, a little help: when I tried plugging my full hand history into the HH converter, the only output I got was:

( handed) [ url=http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi]converter[/url]

What am I doing wrong?

Here's the hand:

0.50/1 Texas Hold'em Game Table (Limit)
bigrich14241 posts small blind (0.25)
TheNerd7 posts big blind (0.50)
funguii posts big blind (0.50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Drtofu [ Jc, Kc ]
Mike0313 folds.
Brainish folds.
giac123 folds.
cptgeorge1 folds.
sniffels222 calls (0.50)
Joelws folds.
funguii checks.
Drtofu calls (0.50)
bigrich14241 calls (0.25)
TheNerd7 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3s, 2h, Jh ]
bigrich14241 checks.
TheNerd7 checks.
sniffels222 bets (0.50)
funguii folds.
Drtofu raises (1) to 1
bigrich14241 folds.
TheNerd7 folds.
sniffels222 raises (1) to 1.50
Drtofu calls (0.50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Jd ]
sniffels222 bets (1)
Drtofu raises (2) to 2
sniffels222 raises (2) to 3
Drtofu calls (1)
** Dealing River ** : [ 6h ]
sniffels222 bets (1)

Results in white.




I just called with the flush and straight possibility out there. I had no read on this guy if he was an idiot raising trips with a weak kicker, had AJ or if he drew to his flush or straight. It just has stuck out in my mind how many times I've lost trips with a king kicker to the Ace kicker.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $12.75 | Rake: $0.75
Board: [ 3s 2h Jh Jd 6h ]
Mike0313 balance $22.75, didn't bet (folded) Brainish balance $54.50, didn't bet (folded)
giac123 balance $24.39, didn't bet (folded)
cptgeorge1 balance $16.75, didn't bet (folded)
sniffels222 balance $22, lost $6 [ Th Js ] [ three of a kind, jacks -- Js,Jh,Jd,Th,6h ] Joelws balance $29.25, didn't bet (folded) funguii balance $24.50, lost $0.50 (folded)
Drtofu balance $53.50, bet $6, collected $12.75, net +$6.75 [ Jc Kc ] [ three of a kind, jacks with king kicker -- Kc,Jc,Jh,Jd,6h ]
bigrich14241 balance $24.75, lost $0.50 (folded)
TheNerd7 balance $17.25, lost $0.50 (folded)
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DimitriT
Old 07-12-2005, 02:22 PM #2 (permalink)  
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With the flush & straight draw I bet the pot on the flop and turn. Check/call the river.
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Old 07-12-2005, 04:14 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 it's limit hold em, you can't bet the pot.

raise pre flop with KJs. especially on the button.

on the flop and turn, i would not be too concerned about AJ because most people will raise AJ before the flop. i think you played it just fine.

on the river, i'm not sure i would be so concerned about the hearts because i don't know a lot of people who will 3-bet the flop and turn with a draw, particularly in a heads up situation. still, the call is okay as you may be up against a boat.

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Old 07-12-2005, 04:52 PM #4 (permalink)  
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That's what started to dawn on me when he reraised on the turn-- a set that went to a boat on the turn in which case I would have been drawing practically dead. When the possible flush and straight card came on the river (and the possible boat which was already out there) and he bet again, I figured I'd just cool it and call this one down.

Lucky for me the guy was just a noob that wasn't savvy enough to think about kickers. I guess I should add that I was a bit gunshy from a hand early in my session after I had capped the turn and river betting on an AK hand that gave me two pairs-- aces and kings-- and was deflated to see that the other guy flopped his set of two's and had me the whole time (and yes, I did raise preflop).
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