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wiesman02
Old 05-13-2005, 12:27 AM     Post subject: Raise on the flop ? #1 (permalink)  

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You all may be thinking how can I possibly be calling such garbage. Well at a tight table, I like to play loose. Anyway, my hand was sooooooted, lol. I consider myself an extremely good button player so Im very loose on the button.

Question is: Do I raise this on the flop, and give away the fact that I have a J? I knew he had a good hand to raise on the bb, but I figured if I raised the flop and he folded, that would have lost me at least 1 bb on the turn. I was trying to extract max value.

***** Hand History for Game 591129 *****
3/6 TexasHTGameTable (Limit) - Thu May 12 20:04:24 EDT 2005
Table Card Room Table 35 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Loki ( $76.50)
Seat 2: LennyB ( $162)
Seat 3: BLyons ( $69.75)
Seat 4: nutflush ( $298.50)
Seat 5: Sandman ( $55.50)
Seat 6: gables21 ( $63)
Seat 7: Wiesman02 ( $115.50)
Seat 8: coyote ( $198.50)
Seat 9: Bullets ( $36.50)
coyote posts small blind (1)
Bullets posts big blind (3)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Wiesman02 [ Jd, 4d ]
Loki folds.
LennyB folds.
BLyons folds.
nutflush folds.
Sandman folds.
gables21 folds.
Wiesman02 calls (3)
coyote folds.
Bullets raises (3) to 6Wiesman02 calls (3)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jh, Js, 2c ]
Bullets bets (3)
Wiesman02 calls (3)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 8h ]
Bullets bets (6)
Wiesman02 raises (12) to 12
Bullets calls (6)
** Dealing River ** : [ 3d ]
Bullets checks.
Wiesman02 bets (6)
Bullets folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: $41 | Rake: $2
Board: [ Jh Js 2c 8h 3d ]
Loki balance $76.50, didn't bet (folded)
LennyB balance $162, didn't bet (folded)
BLyons balance $69.75, didn't bet (folded)
nutflush balance $298.50, didn't bet (folded)
Sandman balance $55.50, didn't bet (folded)
gables21 balance $63, didn't bet (folded)
Wiesman02 balance $135.50, bet $21, collected $41, net +$20 [ Jd 4d ] [ three of a kind, jacks ]
coyote balance $197.50, lost $1 (folded)
Bullets balance $15.50, lost $21 (folded)
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Old 05-13-2005, 01:30 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Raise pre-flop. If you're going to play junk, apply maximum pressure on the bonus-chaising, pre-flop chart using rocks.
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Old 05-13-2005, 01:57 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Why open-limp when you have the fold equity against the few random hands behind you?
To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
 
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Old 05-13-2005, 05:29 AM #4 (permalink)  
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raise preflop to blind steal if you think you can pull it off, raise flop.
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honsheung
Old 05-13-2005, 05:46 AM #5 (permalink)  
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yes, raise preflop. This is ambigous if you call in flop only. No pressure givene to the big blind.

Also, if you gonna go for a slow play, u shouldn't raise until the river . A turn raise make people to scare about your hands, most time they will fold.
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