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Demiparadigm
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07-29-2005, 10:54 AM
Post subject: Raise the draw?
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4-of-a-Kind
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Think i should have raised the flop to clear up my overcard outs and maybe get a free card, since I have the backdoor flush and straight draws.
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J , T. MP3 posts a blind of $5.
1 fold, Hero calls, 2 folds, MP3 (poster) checks, 1 fold, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: (5 SB) 6 , 5, 9 (6 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.
Turn: (5 BB) J (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.
River: (8 BB) 2 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.
Final Pot: 8 BB
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ChezJ
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the pot is tiny. you would be getting 3.5:1 on your raise, terrible odds for a tainted draw (discount the J/T). call or fold.
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TylerK
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I probably fold preflop.
But finding myself in this mess, I think I call and see a turn card rather than raising. In this hand a bad turn card can make your hand completely worthless to the point where you won't even need to see a river.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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Nehmer
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No way do I raise this flop...Your hand is pretty crappy at this point.
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Demiparadigm
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Nehmer
No way do I raise this flop...Your hand is pretty crappy at this point.
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But they don't know that.
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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allLiving
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Fore-warning. Sorta hard to bluff in Limit.
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Why do you even get into the hand with JT UTG+1?
Your position sucks, your cards might not be live (some of your straights are blocked by big cards) making a pair you might have kicker trouble, and the only thing you got going for you is being suited
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Chicago_Kid
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08-01-2005, 05:20 PM
Post subject: Re: Raise the draw?
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Full House
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Demiparadigm
Think i should have raised the flop to clear up my overcard outs
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You have bad position, your overcard outs are likely to be dominated, and there is a flush draw. So, you'll either win a small pot, or lose a big one.
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