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Ragnar4
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06-10-2007, 03:57 PM
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Full House
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Ok.
So I've been running about 25-28% Vp$Ip in 6-max limit poker. And wavering between LAA and LAP. For my aggression rating. Right on the edge between the two.
I think it must also be noted, that I'm beginning to feel like I have a very strong grasp of the semi-bluff concept, and a very strong grasp in calculating and reading the board and understanding my outs. I cause a lot of players to go on tilt because I'll peel to the turn with a backdoor straight, backdoor flush, and an over which is razor thin odds +EV Call when compared to the pot, sometimes semi-bluff the turn, sometimes not, catch my river, and send their top pair, or pocket aces down the drain. (which may be why they start to attack me like they do I'll explain a bit further down)
From UTG I like raising with TT+ (although sometimes I'll limp TT and JJ if the table is particularly loose passive) AKs, AKo, AQs, AQo KQs KQo KJs and sometimes I get frisky with ATs and KTs.
The problem is this: After about an hour of being frisky, and outplaying everyone after the flop. Each and every one of my raises gets met with a 3-bet from the guy immediatley to my left! 2 times in a row, two different thinking players ended up directly to my left, and would 3-bet every time I raised. Is this because their belief of my range of hands suggests that they should be able to out-play me with any 2?
My initial feeling is to tighten way up and wait for AA, or KK, or QQ. Maybe AKs and AKo and punish them for this. But I feel like I'm losing way too much equity when EVERY time I raise, no matter where I'm at they are 3-betting.
Also. Once these players adjust to me in this sense, they also adjust to me in the blinds. These players when I limp in the SB with any 2 suited cards (provided there is enough action) or any 2 connected cards (just about every time) will re-raise from the BB. Again this is every time.
It's odd, because it's less like they want to take my money, and more like they just don't want me to have the money. The re-raise encourages stupid action and call downs from other players at this level that takes the money away from me and redistributes it to these idiots. So now I'm pissed off at these guys and feeling helpless because I can't even come after them to get my money back.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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Stagemn
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06-10-2007, 06:13 PM
Post subject: Re: Questions:
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by Ragnar4
Ok.
So I've been running about 25-28% Vp$Ip in 6-max limit poker. And wavering between LAA and LAP. For my aggression rating. Right on the edge between the two.
I think it must also be noted, that I'm beginning to feel like I have a very strong grasp of the semi-bluff concept, and a very strong grasp in calculating and reading the board and understanding my outs. I cause a lot of players to go on tilt because I'll peel to the turn with a backdoor straight, backdoor flush, and an over which is razor thin odds +EV Call when compared to the pot, sometimes semi-bluff the turn, sometimes not, catch my river, and send their top pair, or pocket aces down the drain. (which may be why they start to attack me like they do I'll explain a bit further down)
From UTG I like raising with TT+ (although sometimes I'll limp TT and JJ if the table is particularly loose passive) AKs, AKo, AQs, AQo KQs KQo KJs and sometimes I get frisky with ATs and KTs.
The problem is this: After about an hour of being frisky, and outplaying everyone after the flop. Each and every one of my raises gets met with a 3-bet from the guy immediatley to my left! 2 times in a row, two different thinking players ended up directly to my left, and would 3-bet every time I raised. Is this because their belief of my range of hands suggests that they should be able to out-play me with any 2?
My initial feeling is to tighten way up and wait for AA, or KK, or QQ. Maybe AKs and AKo and punish them for this. But I feel like I'm losing way too much equity when EVERY time I raise, no matter where I'm at they are 3-betting.
Also. Once these players adjust to me in this sense, they also adjust to me in the blinds. These players when I limp in the SB with any 2 suited cards (provided there is enough action) or any 2 connected cards (just about every time) will re-raise from the BB. Again this is every time.
It's odd, because it's less like they want to take my money, and more like they just don't want me to have the money. The re-raise encourages stupid action and call downs from other players at this level that takes the money away from me and redistributes it to these idiots. So now I'm pissed off at these guys and feeling helpless because I can't even come after them to get my money back.
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In my book - you play tight/semi-loose.
UTG - also raise with KJo, QJs, ATo, maybe QTs and JTs pending reads.
Work on your blind play though. SB fold most of the time.
Oh, and welcome to VARIANCE. It's gona happen off and on.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pwnsylvania
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Dont ever open limp
Never open-complete the SB
If you are being taken advantage of positionally you are more than welcome to change tables
Start c/r more
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
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BTW you're obviously around and i will be in Vent all day
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Ragnar4
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Full House
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Actually I'm entertaining friends. Sneaking away for a few seconds to check my FTR posts. I accidentally left it online. I would like a chance to vent with ya Big. =) Lookin' forward to it.
Prolly won't be on till tomorow.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
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