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Knytestorme

06-27-2008, 01:48 PM Post subject: Question on play

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Posting this only because I was abused so hard after the hand and figured I should see if it was a donkey play or not.

I have no problem with my call preflop to defend, the question is regarding the flop cold-call. My thoughts were that I have an open-ended to the nuts (barring a club falling) and an over and it was currently going to cost me 2 SB's with 9.5 sb's in the pot, though with the original bettor still to act. Assuming I do have equity to make the call here, would I still have it if it were capped before getting back to me after I had put in 2 sb's?

From the turn on the hand plays itself but it did leave me wondering about that flop call, from a non-results point of view.

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8

, T

.
UTG calls, 2 folds, Button raises, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6

, 5

, 7

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button raises, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 9

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) 4

(3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 24.25 BB

[EDIT]
Just put it through pokerstove with their ranges based on the 70ish hands I had against them (72.58% and 82.56% VP$IP) and seems that against those ranges I had the right price with my hand

Board: 6d 7c 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.753% 33.69% 02.06% 193822972 11837525.67 { Tc8d }
Hand 1: 32.610% 30.85% 01.76% 177449673 10133915.17 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 84s+, 73s+, 63s+, 53s+, 43s, A2o+, K2o+, Q2o+, J5o+, T6o+, 96o+, 86o+, 76o, 65o }
Hand 2: 31.637% 29.87% 01.77% 171827506 10161983.17 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, A2o+, K2o+, Q2o+, J2o+, T4o+, 95o+, 85o+, 75o+, 65o, 54o }

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Fnord

06-30-2008, 08:38 AM

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I would lead the flop and GAS GAS GAS.
You don't want to c/r the flop and confront people with 2 bets cold and getting checked through sucks when such a wide range is peeling.

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