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outphase
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04-19-2006, 05:42 AM
Post subject: Question brought up by a friend.
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 949
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My friend recently had this situation happen.
He has AcQc and raises pf in early/mid position
Flop is heads up - Jc 8s 7c
Opp checks, Friend bets.
Turn - Ah
Opp checks, Friend bets, Opp raises.
He asked me whether or not he should 3bet in lieu of drawing to the nuts with TPGK... I didn't have a straight answer for him so I wanna know what you all think.
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: St. Louis
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The fact that he was check-called on the flop and check-raised on the turn would leave me to believe that TP probably isn't good. He would likely be 3-betting with the worst hand and a 3-bet also leaves him open to a world of hurt if his opponent wants to put in a fourth bet. I would probably call with the nut flush draw and likely fold the river to a sizeable bet if I missed.
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TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
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midas06
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NZ
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... this is LHE dnuts. *pushes dnuts back to the nl forums*
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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It doesn't really matter -- call or raise. Its mostly a Clint Eastwood situation.. "Do you feel lucky punk? Do you?"
If we threebet here and he does not cap, and the river bricks, we're checking behind on the river. This will cost us the exact same as simply calling the turn and calling the river.
Threebetting and having him just call is the ideal situation for us, as it allows us to win the most and lose the least -- however, getting capped here would bite.
Do you feel lucky, punk?
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outphase
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 949
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I figured it came down to Dirty Harry.
I came to the conclusion he's better off 3betting the flop with TP + Flush Draw and doing so on the turn was gambling just a bit much.
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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Fnord
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
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What's your opponent's raising standard? Would he raise Ax here? Bluff?
Against an aggressive opponent I like calling and raising the river improved. You win an extra bet against a bluff (if he follows through) and can get in an extra bet when you suck out.
Would be cold call a worse Ace hand than AQ? c/r the turn with it? If so, then the 3-bet sounds nice. Then again, could he laydown top pair with a weak or lukewarm kicker to your 3-bet? If he's on 3-outs or less we really don't have to protect our hand.
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