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littleogre
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05-01-2006, 09:00 PM
Post subject: question about abnormal blind games
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What adjustments do you make when the small blind is 2/3 of the bb instead of the normal 1/2. For example at a 15/30 game where the blinds are 10/15.
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euphoricism
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As the "fraction" gets larger you should play more from the SB. As the 'fraction' gets smaller, you should play less.
IE in a 1/3 blind structure (like $3/$6) you should really give up your SB without too much of a struggle.
IE, if its folded to the button who raises, theres the BB ($3), you ($1) and the btn's raise ($6) there is $10 in the pot, and it costs you $5 to call, and you have no idea what BB is going to do. Youre getting 2:1 on a call.. not exactly the greatest odds in poker)
In a 10/15 blind structure (like $15/$30) you play more from the SB for the same reason.
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Fnord
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Live games with a 1/3 small blind or just a big blind kick ass.
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outphase
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Live games with a 1/3 small blind or just a big blind kick ass.
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In a live game with 1/3, people feel that they just "have to" complete... that right?
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No, thats the 2/3 blind structure which is my favorite to play. Unlike some people, I actually like to play many hands and see flops for cheap.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Live games with a 1/3 small blind or just a big blind kick ass.
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In a live game with 1/3, people feel that they just "have to" complete... that right? |
Yeah, they're completing/defending with any 2 then playing really bad. I think that's MUCH bigger edge than seeing more flops out of position every other orbit or so. Particularly given that the common rake strucutre is becomming $1 pre-flop another $3 post-flop, a $1 jackpot drop and a $1 tip.
Also, the less blind money out there, the bigger of a mistake the guy(s) starting the action are making. In a good game, the blind is only an excuse for people to play crap hands anyway, the real dead money isn't forced into the pot. Hence, why would I want to pay more per orbit?
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What live games run 1/3, other than $3/$6? I guess $30/60 is the next one?
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15/30 and 30/60 both do
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15/30 and 30/60 both do
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i played a 5/10 Live game last night with blinds of 3/5 that was funky...
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0k lets say i'm geting 12-1 or better by the time it comes back around to me. in a game where i feel confident that atleast 1 or 2 people will chase to the river. With the current odds and the money i stand to extract from the table calling stations . Isn't it correct to call with nearly any 2 cards from the sb?
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Originally Posted by littleogre
0k lets say i'm geting 12-1 or better by the time it comes back around to me. in a game where i feel confident that atleast 1 or 2 people will chase to the river. With the current odds and the money i stand to extract from the table calling stations . Isn't it correct to call with nearly any 2 cards from the sb?
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Its close, in a 2/3 blind structure it doesnt take much to get like 20/1 in your hands and at that price you should call any two for set/2 pair value. Its high variance but still +EV.
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yeah at 2/3 I call any two
especially since people let me draw a lot at the stakes I play
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