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Old 06-13-2005, 04:05 AM     Post subject: QQ / AA hand #1 (permalink)  
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UTG is a complete donk...

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Preflop: pkrfanatic is UTG+1 with Q, Q.
UTG calls, pkrfanatic raises, 3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) Q, 3, 4 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, pkrfanatic bets, CO folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, pkrfanatic bets, UTG calls.

River: (7.25 BB) A (2 players)
UTG checks, pkrfanatic ....

Final Pot: 7.25 BB
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Old 06-13-2005, 04:32 AM #2 (permalink)  
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If you do anything but bet here, you've lost your mind.
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Old 06-13-2005, 05:18 AM #3 (permalink)  
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If you do anything but bet here, you've lost your mind.
lol, you're probably right... I have lost my mind, but lets go back and look at how it was played, UTG a donk limps, could be any two, I raise CO calls donk calls, I flop top set donk checked hmmm I bet, co folds typical, utg calls makes you wonder and start thinking about what this donk is calling with... this guy probably has either the FD or a pair or maybe a straight draw, I don't see him calling with absolute nothing... turn comes down a 5 not a great card to see but he check called, now I know he has probably a pair with some sort of draw... when he checks to me on the river and the board shows 4 to a straight and I have him on either a draw, Ace rag, and I knew he had a pair, the Ace actually is a card that I really didn't want to see because I know this guy will play trash I actually can’t not say with over 60% certainty that this guy doesn’t have a hand that has any hand with a 2 in it, at this point I have a decision check and see if I’m beat and save probably 2bb to 4bb when I am beat OR bet and make 1bb when I’m ahead...

Umm, also to put this guy on a 2 wouldn’t be a stretch I’d say he would play A2, 23s, face 2, I’d say this guy probably has at least one rag in his hand over 50% of the time… what's your play?
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Old 06-13-2005, 05:26 AM #4 (permalink)  
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You're nuts. Bet bet bet.
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Old 06-13-2005, 06:04 AM #5 (permalink)  
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You're nuts. Bet bet bet.
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Old 06-13-2005, 06:53 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Bet.
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Old 06-13-2005, 07:56 AM #7 (permalink)  
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He's probably going to call with any piece of the board and only one card beats you. You need to be good about 67% of the time if you're calling a raise, your hand is easily good +90%. There's just so much crap he can call with and so little that beats you.
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Old 06-13-2005, 07:59 AM #8 (permalink)  
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It's a pretty clear bet then, but i'm not normal...

River: (7.25 BB) A (2 players)
UTG checks, pkrfanatic checks.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB

Results below:
UTG has 2h 3h (straight, five high).
pkrfanatic has Qd Qh (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: UTG wins 7.25 BB.
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Old 06-13-2005, 08:35 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Well at least you were right about him being a Donk.
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Old 06-16-2005, 03:09 PM #10 (permalink)  
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another one for you guys:
CO can semi-bluff but still a complete donk...

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Preflop: pkrfanatic is Button with A, A.
4 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, pkrfanatic raises, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 5, A, 4 (3 players)
MP3 checks, CO bets, pkrfanatic raises, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) T (2 players)
CO checks, pkrfanatic bets, CO calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 8 (2 players)
CO checks, pkrfanatic ...
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Old 06-16-2005, 03:18 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Definitely bets, since a worse hand will call. Considers folding to a raise.
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Old 06-17-2005, 08:20 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 i think most people are going to bet out a rivered flush in EP, as there is too much risk of it getting checked down.

so you are likely up against AX. bet and call if c/r'd.
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Old 06-17-2005, 10:18 PM #13 (permalink)  
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River: (7.75 BB) 8 (2 players)
CO checks, pkrfanatic checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Results below:
CO has Kc 2c (flush, ace high).
pkrfanatic has As Ah (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: CO wins 7.75 BB.
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