Originally Posted by euphoricism

The cards come and go. You'll pay for that card rush later :P

As to whether the opposition is better at LHE or NL -- well, the experts edge in NL is far greater than the experts edge in LHE, so its hard to guage. I'll say that most beginning LHE players get destroyed at their first attempts at NL, while most NL players tend to only be slight losers at their first attempts to play LHE. However, this is probably more of a function of the game than of the relative skill of the players. The penalty for being wrong in NL is just so much greater. Whereas an LHE might go all-in in the wrong spot and lose a stack, an NL player can only lose at most a few bets just due to the way the games are played. So, hard to tell, and not really worth the effort of finding out.

There are good LHE players and bad LHE players and good NL players and bad NL players. There probably isnt a huge difference between a good LHE player and a good NL player except that the skillset is different.

Originally Posted by euphoricism

I can see your point, and I can agree with this statement.

But its not because the LHE players are "better" its just that theyre "a different breed of moron". The difference between the low level LHE and the low level NL is mainly preflop. Almost everyone in low level LHE knows that they need to be tight, and so the games are mostly rockish.

But in NL, the newbs are more likely to have the "any two can win" mentality, so I could entertain the arguement that the low level LHE players are "better", but I'm still not ready to say thats established fact. The fact is, while the low stakes NL players are playing a lot of hands, they blinds relative to stack size and relative to bet size often make playing looser when you can get in cheap the correct move. Hence in games where there is lots of limping (like almost every low stakes NL game), these people are playing much more correctly than it appears.

Further, the low stakes NL players dont overvalue second pair and easily dominated hands like the LHE guys do. NL newbies don't tend to call down with K7 on an AKxxx board -- and the LHE players will happily call down with K7 on an AKxxx board.