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Hermann the Lombard
Old 11-25-2007, 03:21 AM     Post subject: QQ 3rd pair #1 (permalink)  
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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP3 3-bets, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 7, K, A (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: (7 BB) 2 (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks.

River: (7 BB) T (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG folds, MP1 bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10 BB

I have numbers but no relevant reads on these two except that one plays ATC and the other plays AATC.

MP3 is 70/14.9/0.38 over 47 hands.
MP1 is 94/6.0/0.65 over 70 hands

Even at 14.9 I'm puzzled when MP3 checks the flop, and I'm expecting a raise if I bet the turn. At the end it's more of a puzzled call than a crying call but I certainly don't expect to win.
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Old 11-25-2007, 05:06 AM #2 (permalink)  
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a lot of times when i player 3bets and then checks the flop they flopped something huge... or nothing at all, but more likely a big hand... that kinda one of those well that weird lines that donks do... the curious thing that makes me wounder is more with his turn check...

i figure that MP1 i figure probably has Ax or hit the FD... either way i think you over call might be thin... all the hand I'm running though that a 94/6.0/0.65 will bet the river with pretty much ALL beat you...

when MP3 calls i really have to think at least one of my opponents has a K or A of some sort or hit a FD... but can't forget about QJ either... just to me every hand the runs though my mind that they would bet and call you're behind to, sickly enough i want to fold this river...

i think my line would have been to lead the turn fold to a raise give up if called... gives you a bettor chance to take a pot...

i'm sure someone wont agree with that thinking... lol
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:30 AM #3 (permalink)  

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 fold either mp1 or mp3 have you crushed. This is kinda off topic but i see the following play all the time at 25c/50c. Someone will cap pf the fold for 1 bet on the flop.
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I think I find a call getting 8:1 just for the information.
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I think I find a call getting 8:1 just for the information.
Mp3 has already called though, so we will see their hands without having to commit a bet ourselves. I can't overcall on the river in this spot with 3 overcards and a flush draw completed.
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:00 AM #6 (permalink)  
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You're beating nothing. Fold.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:00 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Here in the cold gray light of--er--noon I have to agree that I should have folded and made a note based on the other guy calling. There really is nothing that I beat since I can't see even an idiot 3-betting JJ preflop.
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Old 12-11-2007, 01:10 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Blech. Would they have folded to a flop bet or were u up against calling stations? I don't like it on the river as it was played - foldarama.
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I think I find a call getting 8:1 just for the information.
Mp3 has already called though, so we will see their hands without having to commit a bet ourselves. I can't overcall on the river in this spot with 3 overcards and a flush draw completed.
I'm an idiot. Fold.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:05 AM #10 (permalink)  
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You're not an idiot, I bet you would have seen that at the table. Different sort of concentration when you're IN the hand. Not necessarily when *I'm* in the hand...
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