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Phyl
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Flush
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 396
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Hey. Played a session of 10/20 for the first time in the last few months, did quite well but there are a few hands that I think are questionable. Here's one:
Button is 14/12 after about 30 hands. Hasn't played many hands since I joined the table but from what I saw of his post-flop play he seems pretty passive. FWIW I have been raising a lot preflop and I probably have an aggressive image.
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , Q .
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.
Flop: (13.50 SB) 5 , 9, 9 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, Button raises, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (9.75 BB) A (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, Button calls.
River: (13.75 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.
Final Pot: 13.75 BB
Turn check/raise good?
Fold to a river bet?
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Fnord
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
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I usually just 3-bet the flop. Otherwise, looks fine.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I usually just 3-bet the flop. Otherwise, looks fine.
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If you 3-bet the flop you shouldn't check-raise then.
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jmontis
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,296
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being out of position just hurts the potential profit for the hand, but nh
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take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
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Room
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 197
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If his postflop play is passive, and he capped a preflop raiser and 3bettor. If he had an AK he would likely 3bet the turn, so I don't mind a river bet here. It looks like KK here. Its possible he has AhQh or AhJh but unlikey as he would almost definitely bet the river. I would have 3bet the flop, and continued on the turn. While the A is scary to you, it might also be scary to him and freeze him up. I think c/r that specific turn card is rough because if he does have AK or AQ, we risk getting 3bet when drawing practically dead.
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Hate
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 322
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I 3-bet the flop as well.
Phyl, a question I've been meaning to ask: Who's the chick in the avatar?
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Phyl
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Flush
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 396
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I think I played this hand too scared. I called the flop with the intention of calling down but I think I was underestimating the likelihood of Button raising the flop with Ace high. I agree that 3-betting the flop would have been the best course of action.
Here's another hand:
Table is fairly tight but with a few soft spots. SB is 20/14 after about 100 hands, he's aggressive and probably the best at the table.
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is BB with K, T.
4 folds, SB raises, Hero calls.
Flop: (4 SB) 7, 9, 3 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (5 BB) K (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.
River: (7 BB) 7 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.
Final Pot: 11 BB
All comments/criticisms appreciated.
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Hate
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 322
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I'd fold the flop really.
If you give him credit for a good hand (i.e. not just blind stealing) he could already have you beaten(AA), you could be drawing almost dead (KK, 99,77). He could have you dominated (AK) or just have TT, JJ, QQ to leave you with a 3-outer that really isn't worth pursuing for a 5 sb pot on the flop.
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Originally Posted by Hate
I'd fold the flop really.
If you give him credit for a good hand (i.e. not just blind stealing) he could already have you beaten(AA), you could be drawing almost dead (KK, 99,77). He could have you dominated (AK) or just have TT, JJ, QQ to leave you with a 3-outer that really isn't worth pursuing for a 5 sb pot on the flop.
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If you fold the flop with two overcards against a perceived blind-steal then you're losing a lot of money automatically. I've seen Fnord post hand histories of blind defense where he capped the turn with MIDDLE PAIR because he knew it was good against a blind steal.
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Hate
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 322
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They are two crappy overcards thought...
Middle pair is one thing, but KTo overcards are a whole different story.
IMO, of course 
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Fnord
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Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
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[quote="iopq"]
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Originally Posted by Hate
I've seen Fnord post hand histories of blind defense where he capped the turn with MIDDLE PAIR because he knew it was good against a blind steal.
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Maybe against a manaic? I don't recall such a hand, but appreciate the thought.
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LeFou
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 2,361
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Originally Posted by Hate
I 3-bet the flop as well.
Phyl, a question I've been meaning to ask: Who's the chick in the avatar?
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Elin Grindemyr
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dsaxton
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
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First hand, I would only check-raise the turn if opponent is known to be incredibly weak-tight. Otherwise, I think you should just check-fold since you can't beat anything.
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lonnie
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 923
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Nice bump lefou
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