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arborman
Old 01-09-2008, 03:29 AM     Post subject: Pucker up #1 (permalink)  
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CD Poker 0.10/0.25, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Villains are all strangers, but it has been a passive table. Apologies for the crap converter - it's the only one I can find that converts iPoker hands.

Button Button ($20.52)
SB SB ($18.31)
BB BB ($4.37)
UTG UTG ($6.99)
UTG+1 Hero ($11.15)
MP MP ($4.93)
MP MP ($19.03)
CO-1 ($13.68)
CO CO ($46.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T J
UTG calls 0.25, Hero calls 0.25, MP calls 0.25, MP calls 0.25, 1 fold, CO calls 0.25, Button calls 0.25, SB calls 0.15, BB checks.

Flop (2.00)(8SB) Q 9 8
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 0.25, MP calls 0.25, MP raises to 0.50, 1 fold, Button calls 0.50, 2 folds, UTG calls 0.50, Hero raises to 0.50, MP calls 0.50, MP raises to 0.50, Button calls 0.50, UTG calls 0.50, Hero calls 0.25, MP calls 0.25.

Whee, great flop. Me happy cappy. All the action has me wondering if there's a set out there though.

Turn (7.00) (14BB) 8
UTG checks, Hero bets 0.50, MP calls 0.50, MP calls 0.50, Button calls 0.50, UTG raises to 1.00, Hero raises to 1.00, MP calls 1.00, MP calls 1.00, Button raises to 1.50, UTG calls 1.00, Hero calls 0.50, MP calls 0.50, MP calls 0.50.

OK, happy cappy again, but now I'm sweating a boat. Still - aggression good yes?

River (17.00) (34BB) 7
UTG checks, Hero???

I'm thinking to keep firing - I have a hand that beats everything but a boat, and not firing smacks of MUBS. But it's pucker time...

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Old 01-09-2008, 05:47 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Both UTG and Button coming to life on the turn is rather worrisome. I really don't get the button's call (nearly closing the action) and then 3 betting the field after UTG check-raises.

On the other hand, after MP capped that flop, he slowed way down on the turn. I think I go for a bet-call line on the river.
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:36 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Wow what a ridiculous table. Seven players capping the turn and you just know at least four of them are sitting there with a gutshot or middle pair.

The pot's so big I probably call any number of bets on the river. Then I get up and leave. It's bad for your mental game when some guy beats you with 87 here who should have folded the flop, and it will happen over and over again on a table like this. You may as well go play bingo.
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:35 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Wow what a ridiculous table. Seven players capping the turn and you just know at least four of them are sitting there with a gutshot or middle pair.

The pot's so big I probably call any number of bets on the river. Then I get up and leave. It's bad for your mental game when some guy beats you with 87 here who should have folded the flop, and it will happen over and over again on a table like this. You may as well go play bingo.
Ridiculously good table that is When your nuts (or even half decent made hands) hold up, you rake in the cash.
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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Wow what a ridiculous table. Seven players capping the turn and you just know at least four of them are sitting there with a gutshot or middle pair.

The pot's so big I probably call any number of bets on the river. Then I get up and leave. It's bad for your mental game when some guy beats you with 87 here who should have folded the flop, and it will happen over and over again on a table like this. You may as well go play bingo.
An alarmingly large percentage of my bankroll derives from tables and hands like this. Sometimes it hurts, but you don't have to win many 35BB hands to have a positive winrate.
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Old 01-10-2008, 06:28 PM #6 (permalink)  
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That's one of those classic tables that I thought had become mythical, the ones that SSHE and ITH were designed to crush. It *is* very stressful to play at such a table after the relatively tight (and often sedate) tables that have become the norm in the micro limits. The schooling effect is going to choke a lot of your good hands and you have to have the patience to endure the bad beats while offsetting those by value betting your high(er)-quality hands...even loosening up a bit as you want to play more hands against idiots.

As for me, I tend to switch tables despite knowing this. I can start to tilt, especially when someone else's dubious play makes me think that my play was bad. (Also, in these monster pots their post-flop bets can be getting the right odds to continue, so once they make their initial mistakes they *should* stick around to suck out on you.)
Oh, no! Not another learning experience!
 
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:11 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I see your points, fellas. If these kinds of tables make you happy then by all means. I just wouldn't find it very enjoyable myself.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:29 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Well, it sucks to lose a big hand like that of course, but it is great to win one. Worst of all is being chased off the best hand by maniacal donkeys capping middle pair - though usually you win your money back from them later on in the session.
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:33 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Worst of all is being chased off the best hand by maniacal donkeys capping middle pair - though usually you win your money back from them later on in the session.
HAH! In my experience they lose my money back to somebody *else* at the table.
Oh, no! Not another learning experience!
 
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Old 01-14-2008, 04:36 AM #10 (permalink)  
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HAH! In my experience they lose my money back to somebody *else* at the table.
True, though you must admit that there are times when that somebody else is you.
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