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AidanN20
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02-14-2005, 07:24 PM
Post subject: Preflop play on low (45s, 56s,67s etc) suited connectors ?
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I guess the question im asking is that I like alot of low limit .5/$1, 1/2 table games even .25/.50 alot.... I play at pacific and notice that most players are playing K7's, Q8, J5 etc even and they will call a preflop raise if they already have thier BB in the pot "hey its just one more, and ive already got one in" mentality. Also players will bet QJ or K10 etc preflop randomly it seems or 88, 99, 1010 even in late position etc...
Ok to the point.
I really like to play suited connectors 45s and up to the flop. When you hit an open straight draw, noone sees it coming and also when you hit a flush draw its nice as well (even though a high card/rag can take you out easily on the flush).
So is it profitable to play these hands when 5-7 people see the flop?? Also when its preflop raised , whats the lowest suited connector you want to call one bet with in different positions, knowing there are lots of people in the hand??
Thanks all.
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Trikflow77
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Here http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=7077
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Trikflow77
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You had a post about one gappers right???
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AidanN20
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I read that post, but i think it doesnt really directly explain the usefullness of low suited connectors in a full table....it was very helpful for people playing high card junk though.
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Trikflow77
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well I dont play them at all unless the pot is multiway(4 or more limpers) I do not cold call raises with them and I dont play them from early-mid position. That about sums it up. Limp late with them....the higher connectors not 23, 34....ect.
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gabe
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play them with 5 others in the pot in late position, fold them otherwise.
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Fnord
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In limit too much money goes in pre-flop to play these hands a lot unless the field is extremely loose and passive. Think 6+ way.
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AidanN20
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Well i stick to tables that are 7-9 people, and switch tables when it goes under 7...i make alot more table with packed tables
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ChezJ
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i would avoid playing suited connectors lower than T9s unless the action is incredibly multiway and passive (i.e. unraised).
54s and 65s are crap because when you hit a straight, you are often on the idiot end of the straight, and when you hit a flush, you are often beaten by a higher flush. if you factor those losses into your pot odds calculation, i think you will find that you need virtually a family pot (10-handed) to make it a breakeven proposition.
I think these hands are only playable in the BB against a raise and multiple callers because in that case you have good odds and can often put everyone else on high cards. so if you hit some low pair on a totally ragged flop, you can often win by checkraising the raiser, or in rare cases even showing down.
For the same reason, I will sometimes defend my BB heads-up with low suited connectors and pray for a good flop. It only needs to work 1 out of every 3.5 times to pay off.
ChezJ
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AidanN20
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thanks for the info...ill tighten up my suited connector play
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