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Fnord
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03-16-2005, 10:59 PM
Post subject: A pre-flop cold call
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Pacific Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Fnord is CO with K , Q.
MP3 posts a big blind
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 fold, MP3 calls, Fnord calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: (9 SB) 7, J , 9 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Fnord raises, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.
Turn: (7.66 BB) T (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Fnord bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 raises, Fnord 3-bets, MP2 caps.
River: (15.5 BB) K (2 players)
MP2 bets, Fnord raises, MP2 calls.
Final Pot: 19.5 BB
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Yeah I don't mind this cold call at all.
KQs here is pretty tough to fold, but I would never 3-bet it either. So cold-calling is g00t here, I agree.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by dwarfman
I would never 3-bet it either.
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That's a rather close minded approach to the game. I've 3-bet far worse hands than KQs pre-flop *cough* *cough* KT *cough*. But yeah, I think a 3-bet here just gives UTG the chance to make me pay more bets as I'm certainly behind his range. But I have too much hand + position + skill edge to fold.
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Fnord, were you expecting another call or 2 behind you? If you were not would you have cold-called it anyway?
I prefer to limit my cold-calls to 3-4 way pots to bump up the return when I do hit. Versus 1 player does your CC hand requirements go up at all?
- sed
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I like that cold call. If you hit, quite possible you're ahead.
The way he came alive on the turn, I'm guessing he had AJ, or trip's of some sort? Too much credit here?
Interesting hand, Fnord. Everytime you post these, I notice bets I probably would have missed. I guess I'm still a TAg in training...
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I dont like it actually. KQs can hold up on its on, but you are most likely dominated by any K or Q that hits.
With no reads, with so few people in the pot, this is an easy fold and it isnt worth it.
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UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 fold, MP3 calls, Fnord calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: (9 SB) 7Spade, JHeart, 9Spade (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Fnord raises, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.
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Hey, WTF! How did MP2 get back in this hand!
Oh, some content. He has TT/JT or 9T. Possibly a flopped set. Or an 8 for the sucker straight.
Is this a good cold call? It seems reasonable, but I guess not automatic. You have position at least.
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Chicago_Kid
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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff
I dont like it actually. KQs can hold up on its on, but you are most likely dominated by any K or Q that hits.
With no reads, with so few people in the pot, this is an easy fold and it isnt worth it.
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