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Old 08-14-2007, 10:14 PM     Post subject: Pot too big...can't fold... #1 (permalink)  
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Anywhere I can fold here, other than before I post in MP? I'm 90% sure I'm smoked throughout the hand, but the pot is laying me better odds than that...

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8, 8. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero (poster) calls, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG caps, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (25.40 SB) Q, J, T (6 players)
UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 raises, Button folds, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (19.20 BB) 8 (4 players)
UTG bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: (23.20 BB) 4 (4 players)
UTG bets, MP1 folds, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 26.20 BB
TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
 
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:40 PM     Post subject: um... #2 (permalink)  
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the flop becuase you're drawing dead is a good start.
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Old 08-14-2007, 10:50 PM #3 (permalink)  
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What exactly do you think you are up against on the flop? Any of them have AK, QQ, JJ, or TT(all VERY likely hands) and it doesn't matter how big the pot is. This is practically the easiest flop fold ever.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:06 PM #4 (permalink)  
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The pot is too big for me to be sure enough that I'm not up against AA, KK, and a bunch of rags.
TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
 
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:08 PM     Post subject: this has gotta be a joke #5 (permalink)  
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so people are raising and betting the flop with 32 of hearts?
im sorry this is awful.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:11 PM     Post subject: Re: this has gotta be a joke #6 (permalink)  
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so people are raising and betting the flop with 32 of hearts?
im sorry this is awful.
It's .25/.50, people are doing all kinds of crazy things. I'll admit I'm a little rusty, but the worst odds I'm getting at any point in the hand is something like 15:1. There's no way I'm that sure I'm drawing dead.
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:16 PM #7 (permalink)  
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You *might* have a case for calling one bet on the flop only because the pot is so silly, although I don't hate a fold. Second time around it's a fold you're drawing so dead.
 
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Old 08-16-2007, 06:15 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Quick evaluation of "outs"

9 for the straight: no good, any K beats you
8 for the set: meh, any 9 has a straight, but you pick up 10 more outs which not all are good as someone could have QJ,QT,JT easily.
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Old 08-16-2007, 08:07 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Yeah calling one bet I could see. But when it's 2 more back to you on the flop the 2nd time around, gotta dump it.
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:32 AM #10 (permalink)  
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pre-flop, but who ever does...
Post-flop, fold! you are ahead of nothing (and hand with a q, j or ten is ahead, AK is far, far ahead) and your only live outs are the 8s (someone has a king so a nine doesn't help you), then again i don't even think they are that live - don't you put UTG on AK?
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:02 PM #11 (permalink)  
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don't you put UTG on AK?
There's no way I'm putting him on one specific hand.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:22 PM #12 (permalink)  
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don't you put UTG on AK?
There's no way I'm putting him on one specific hand.
except that his line truly only represents 1 hand.
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Old 08-17-2007, 11:11 PM #13 (permalink)  
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LoL, UTG could have QQ here as well. You might not be drawing dead!
 
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