Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Also, if SB checks the flop, I donk it out.

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Fold ...

Originally Posted by euphoricism

pot odds aren't about net, though. Otherwise we would figure our past betting into the future equation, in which case we'd almost never have odds to call anything. We'd figure "Well, I've already put 3.5 bets into this pot, and theres currently 10 in it" when we cant do that. The pot money ain't ours, right?

The pot going in to the turn is 4.75 big bets.

we check / call the turn, pot goes +2 bets (6.75)
we check/raise the river, pot goes +4 bets (10.75)

There is no difference in our implied odds. If we can get a river check/raise off when we hit, our implied odds make it a call.

How am I wrong?

Originally Posted by pokerfanatic

I agree with Jeff we had this conversation on AIM...

Flop call is fine... we don't need to go into that... IF you miss the turn you figure you have to c/c there to draw out, those laying the pot at 6:1 to call you figure on avg you get 2 bets in on the river thus you are getting 8:1 to call it's an easy fold for me...

When you miss the turn you can't say that ohh I still have 10.5:1 to call based on flop implied odds, it needs recalculated on the turn...

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