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LawDude
Old 09-22-2009, 08:18 PM     Post subject: posted without comment #1 (permalink)  
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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A, K
2 folds, Hero raises, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls

Flop: (8.5 SB) Q, 6, K (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP3 caps, Hero calls

Turn: (8.75 BB) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls

River: (10.75 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP3 caps, Hero calls

Total pot: $18.75 (18.75 BB) | Rake: $0.50

Results below:
Hero had A, K (straight, Ace high).
MP3 had 5, Q (one pair, Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $18.25
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:47 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 It's guys like this who keep me coming back to LHE. They go broke instantly in NL games and then don't return. But they will happily pad your bankroll in LHE over and over again.
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:49 PM #3 (permalink)  
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
 
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:53 PM #4 (permalink)  
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oh, were you wanting comments? you said you posted w/o one and i thought you may want a non-word response.

but, seriously, WOW. i love these fish, too.

but, fwiw, i lead the turn and expect to call a raise. i have TPTK, am not too suspicious of KQ/set, picked up 13 nut outs, and probably already suspect this guy is a really lose chump if i have been here 10 hands. i am building the pot some more with the decent chance i am still ahead.

picking up that many outs is huger than huge. it gives us an additional 25% equity, right? we are already likely ahead on the flop, and are already over 50%, we assume. so, this is a donk lead for value and i think we get raised here if he thought he was good.

i dont c/r, even thought its more of a guarantee, because i dont want to get 3bet by hands we are certainly behind. but, with 13 additional nut outs (even if some are shared, we have the 9), we should likely be trying to jam this turn. i am still a bit of a puss. if i had bigger balls, i think i would c/r this and cap it if 3bet because of the chance of drawing out. arent these the micro-edges this game is built around? if we are behind, its not by much now.....and we probably arent behind.

just my opinion.
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Old 09-22-2009, 10:15 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I'd only seen this guy a couple of hands (and he left after a couple of more). I figure against an unknown opponent, the 4-bet on the flop suggests 2-pair or set, but you are right, we now have a ton of outs. The thing is, we are not getting rid of this guy (we should have, of course, with his crappy hand, but we are not ), so if he does have us beat we are just reverse implied oddsing ourselves.

In any event, given what ended up happening, I can't argue with your analysis.
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:16 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I'd only seen this guy a couple of hands (and he left after a couple of more). I figure against an unknown opponent, the 4-bet on the flop suggests 2-pair or set, but you are right, we now have a ton of outs. The thing is, we are not getting rid of this guy (we should have, of course, with his crappy hand, but we are not ), so if he does have us beat we are just reverse implied oddsing ourselves.

In any event, given what ended up happening, I can't argue with your analysis.
i wasnt trying to be "results oriented" there, but maybe i was a bit.

that said, i do lead or c/r that turn a lot, myself. when i improve by picking up a ton of outs or pairing my kicker, i often see that as an opportunity to do something really weird to my villains (always with aggression, never by slowplaying). i think it throws them off and sort of stuns them. what they do after that tells me a TON about where i stand with them and how to play it out from that point.
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