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Old 12-10-2004, 12:30 AM     Post subject: Position Matters.... #1 (permalink)  
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This is why you fold KJo from early position. Had I played, my nut straight would have lost to the river full house.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Js, Kd.
UTG folds, Hero folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.50 SB) Kh, Ac, Qd (3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, BB folds.

Turn: (2.75 BB) Tc (2 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 calls.

River: (4.75 BB) Th (2 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 raises, MP1 3-bets, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

Results in white below:
MP1 has Ad Ts (full house, tens full of aces).
MP2 has Jd 8s (straight, ace high).
Outcome: MP1 wins 10.75 BB.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:46 AM #2 (permalink)  
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More importantly you can avoid big hands...
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:52 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
More importantly you can avoid big hands...
Right.... Here is another example. There is a raise behind me and when the flop comes I am in last place. KJo is overrated by many players.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Ks, Jc.
UTG folds, Hero folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) Qc, 4d, 3h (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, SB folds, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 6s (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, BB calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls.

River: (10 BB) 7s (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Results in white below:
BB has 6h 6d (three of a kind, sixes).
MP2 has Js Qd (one pair, queens).
MP3 has Kh Kc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins 13 BB.
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Old 12-10-2004, 02:39 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I like playing KJo when my 3rd card is an Ace
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