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10-13-2004, 10:10 AM
Post subject: Position DOES matter
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6-handed 3/6 Omaha H/L8 game.
I'm 1 off the button and dealt:
   
Nothing special but it's unraised, I'm in late position, and it's a bit short-handed. Four to see the flop.
Flop comes:
  
Poor player in front of me bets out so I raise, trying to get out bigger pairs and such behind me, as well as find if anyone else has a 10 - the only thing they'd call a raise with in that situation. Button, a solid player, calls; the big blind folds. The poor player re-raises me so I cap it. At this point I'm thinking he's 5's full, and the button has the other 10.
Turn is
poor player bets out again.
My delimma here is that the player behind me has the other 10, I'm sure of it. I can't raise, because if I get re-raised I'm sure I'm beat. But if I AM still ahead, then I'm not going to be able to maximize my win. Plus it could end up going 4 bets on the turn only to have the button spike a J or Q on the river. So I only call. The button calls as well. (ok, likely he's not full)
River is:
Early position again bets out. I can only call because I still can't be sure the button didn't make a bigger full house. Button calls.
He didn't fill up, the early position bettor had 5's full, and I took a decent sized pot. Had I been in LAST position, I really could have maximized this win, but having the naked 10 behind me, calling me down, I was out of position to raise on the turn or river. Position does matter in omaha.
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TLR
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Nice Hand
I think that in your situation I would probably raise the turn. Assuming your assumptions are correct the chance of the player at the button catching the full house are 9/42 = 21%.
If you raise and get reraised you lost onet bet, however if he did not catch the full house you reraise the player with the lower full house would probably reraise according to how he played the flop, then you would cap and get 3 bets from the lower full house, plus giving bad pot odds to the button.
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SmackinYaUp
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Hey, omaha noobie here. Dont wanna raise the dead too much here, but this post confused me.
The hero flops 10s full of 5s for the nut full house. Why is he afraid to build that pot? The other player at best has him tied, and at worst is drawing to a bigger full house. Why not get your money in when you are ahead? What am I missing?
Me (noobie) would have raised as much as possible without folding out anyone else.
Sorry if its a stupid question, but Im a holdem player, recently gave omaha a try and have enjoyed it. It seems to be a lucrative game on party poker 
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LockLow34
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Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp
Hey, omaha noobie here. Dont wanna raise the dead too much here, but this post confused me.
The hero flops 10s full of 5s for the nut full house. Why is he afraid to build that pot? The other player at best has him tied, and at worst is drawing to a bigger full house. Why not get your money in when you are ahead? What am I missing?
Me (noobie) would have raised as much as possible without folding out anyone else.
Sorry if its a stupid question, but Im a holdem player, recently gave omaha a try and have enjoyed it. It seems to be a lucrative game on Party Poker |
Not a stupid question. Omaha is a game of the nuts (at the river). It's not like hold'em where you can flop a boat and have it hold up. So many more cards are out on every deal that it's quite likely your flopped boat won't hold up.
I do agree I should have raised the turn there, though.
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Raise every street. Even in Omaha the odds of a better hand being out there are very slim.
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