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Old 02-08-2009, 09:11 AM     Post subject: Pokertableratings.com #1 (permalink)  
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I don't work for these guys but the site is really good imo. It lets you find the fishy tables (not clear what algorithm they use to rate them but they seem to agree with my idea of what a fishy table is) at a number of popular sites.

It also lets you see the winrates of your opponents at 2/4 and above at either Stars or FTP. I made a list of the people who I regularly play against and thought the results were interesting (and ok to be honest it's a bit of a brag).

These players all have 100k hands or more at Stars and have turned up regularly at either 3/6 or 5/10.

(EDIT: Found some more guys since OP)

Name.................................BB/100
blntzbrndy.............................2.49
dschingis27...........................1.91
nWooch.................................1.51
MyCleverName......................1.23
DrivingDog.............................1.17
Poker_FaceII.........................1.15
SethyPooh21.........................0.80
2_Basic..................................0.80
Wurst2000.............................0.78
Caipirinha00...........................0.74
marchinvest2..........................0.67
captdanger.............................0.58
jadajadamasa........................0.39
thetalker.................................0.38
SlickDickey..............................0.22
CallMeFishhh...........................0.12
CRA931...................................0.04
chucksaucey............................0.02
666 INRI.................................-0.02
Kick_nYurAce..........................-0.05
chawinksi...............................-0.05
SnyderJTS...............................-0.11
huzaro....................................-0.11
Kala77.....................................-0.14
InIL.........................................-0.19
dbeckham7467........................-0.22
knaster222.............................-0.24
FlareMVP.................................-0.26
StacysMom309........................-0.27
JC-TheGuide...........................-0.28
JohannesSB............................-0.34
Wadsulator............................-0.34
Chinawe.................................-0.56
ACESDAI.................................-0.58
ChipMovr................................-0.58
tomte999................................-0.60
makimaki................................-0.63
chezlaw..................................-0.63
NthngBtsRck...........................-0.66
pokaplaya98...........................-0.69
knusper..................................-0.74
bergeroo................................-0.76
SunDancerSVK.......................-0.82
Mr. Double A...........................-1.54
Sirocko...................................-1.58
mtg38skopok2........................-2.04


The stats also include NL and other levels of LHE, but it suprises me how many regulars are in the red (bearing in mind that the rake is about 3BB/100 and with bonuses you get about 1 BB/100 back, so I guess anyone who loses less than 1 BB/100 turns a profit of some kind), and that no-one is just crushing the game for >2.5BB/100 over a large sample. Or maybe there are and I just haven't played them much....

Also some of the individual results surprised me, as several of the guys in the red I thought were quite good (at least as good as me if not better).

Finally, there is a small (r2= -.21) negative correlation between number of hands played and winrate, meaning that the guys who play more hands tend to have a lower winrate. Table selection methinks.

I'd be interested to see similar results for FTP if anyone has an hour to kill.
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Old 02-08-2009, 04:58 PM #2 (permalink)  
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i love that site, too. i seems to make it really easy to wait on the proper tables for a game. as long as the game doesnt turnover right away, i think you stand a great chance at coming into a table with your self-confidence on a high....and you cant underestimate that.

as for the specific player stuff, GOD i gotta get to 2/4. but, right now, i'd surely be in the red numbers. i've also seen some of these guys slumming, too, which is to say, i've seen a couple names before.

and, nice brag.....its fairly well deserved, imo.
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:40 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Don't see it on their list

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited/

you have a link for this?
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:52 PM #5 (permalink)  
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never mind, i see it.
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:57 PM #6 (permalink)  
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i still use it all the time. i refresh it while i am playing. and, i have used sharkscope as well come to think of it.

is this new for pokertablerankins.com?
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:19 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Can't say much about FTP, but Stars is pretty adamantly against datamining of all kinds. So i can see their beef with this.

Tbh, I can't imagine how they'd know if you were looking at it while playing. They monitor the activity of 50k different IP addresses?
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Can't say much about FTP, but Stars is pretty adamantly against datamining of all kinds. So i can see their beef with this.

Tbh, I can't imagine how they'd know if you were looking at it while playing. They monitor the activity of 50k different IP addresses?
apparently, (and this is not substantiated at all), they attach a "spyware" type of something to you and can tell where on the net you go when you are logged into their servers. they have caught numerous colluders this way, and i think some of it has been published at "the other site."

i think they can tell if you have vent, msn, etc open. at least, thats what i have been led to believe. but, like i say, its unsubstantiated. so, if i am way off, please correct me. i dont want to spread stupid rumors....which this is bordering on.
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