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PLO8 - tricky hand. Promotional Raise?

  
 
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:02 PM     Post subject: PLO8 - tricky hand. Promotional Raise? #1 (permalink)  
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Saltsoup is an average player, he enters about 27% of pots. He’s a losing player according to my stats on him. I think he’s likely to have an AAxx, A2xx or A3xx when he raises. Colossus is a big big fish and I’ve taken a stack off him before. He leads pot into a flush board with the PFR still to act and I’m holding the biggest flush cards. He’d do this with 2 pair or a set, and I doubt he’d bet a big straight draw like that. I decide to raise here. I’m trying really hard to fold out a bare A2 or A3. If I’m unsucessful, I’m never drawing dead. But if I can isolate the fish and I have the best low draw I get 60% equity and the dead money. Good move?

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$ 200 USD PL Omaha Hi-Lo - Thursday, April 12, 08:07:14 ET 2007
Table Table 125381 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 6: WumpWump ( $ 199.50 USD )
Seat 7: Gullhus ( $ 210.70 USD )
Seat 8: HERO ( $ 198.75 USD )
Seat 3: redbull344 ( $ 231.75 USD )
Seat 2: luckypot888 ( $ 233.98 USD )
Seat 10: KAV04 ( $ 179.65 USD )
Seat 4: saltsoup ( $ 196 USD )
Seat 1: CandyRide ( $ 134.40 USD )
Seat 5: colossus ( $ 96.50 USD )
Seat 9: humlan11 ( $ 201 USD )
colossus posts small blind [$ 1 USD].
WumpWump posts big blind [$ 2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ks 3d Tc As ]
Gullhus folds
HERO calls [$ 2 USD]
humlan11 folds
KAV04 calls [$ 2 USD]
CandyRide folds
luckypot888 folds
redbull344 folds
saltsoup raises [$ 11 USD]
colossus calls [$ 10 USD]
WumpWump folds
HERO calls [$ 9 USD]
KAV04 calls [$ 9 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 7d, 5s ]
colossus bets [$ 43.70 USD]
HERO raises [$ 174.80 USD]
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well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
 
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:19 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I was about comment on this hand as if it were PLO high (I just grazed over what you said about A2/A3 thinking you had a flush draw+top pair on a flop of something like A3x). I suck donkey balls at PLO8, but never drawing dead = good and shutting out bigger/same draws (ie A2/A3) = very good, so I approve.
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:43 AM #3 (permalink)  
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This is how I play it normally. Is it really that spewy?

Drawing to the 2nd nut low and the nut high. Anyone calling here has to have at least a redraw to both splits. You make it really tough on a set and equally difficult for A2 (we know they cannot have the NFD) to call as well.

Problem is you blow everyone out of a pot you could very well scoop with a gin card.
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Old 05-05-2007, 04:59 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I think the first hand I was up against a set with no low and we split the pot. Here's another similar hand:

Pilipinen is loose and shit but sane. Rafman is 90 VPIP over 60 hands and completely retarded. I think this one is completely routine; I need to isolate against the fish and take the dead money. Also I had a pair of 8s that was possibly good if Rafman was raising a low only and a possible gutshot promotion if he folds 456

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$200 USD PL Omaha Hi-Lo - Saturday, May 05, 00:38:37 ET 2007
Table Table 131194 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 8: ra9812 ( $109.04 USD )
Seat 2: HERO ( $242.90 USD )
Seat 6: TheWarden24 ( $441.34 USD )
Seat 7: Pilipinen ( $379.28 USD )
Seat 5: Arioch83 ( $200 USD )
Seat 4: rafman777 ( $188.95 USD )
ra9812 posts small blind [$1 USD].
HERO posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ac 8s 5d 8c ]
rafman777 calls [$2 USD]
TheWarden24 calls [$2 USD]
Pilipinen calls [$2 USD]
ra9812 calls [$1 USD]
>You have options at Table 125419 (No DP) Table!.
HERO checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, 2c, Kc ]
ra9812 checks
HERO bets [$9.50 USD]
rafman777 raises [$38 USD]
>You have options at Table 125419 (No DP) Table!.
TheWarden24 folds
Pilipinen calls [$38 USD]
ra9812 folds
HERO raises [$152 USD]
>You have options at Table 130429 (No DP) Table!.
rafman777 is all-In [$148.95 USD]
>You have options at Table 125419 (No DP) Table!.
Pilipinen folds
HERO calls [$25.45 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
HERO shows [ Ac, 8s, 5d, 8c ]a flush, Ace high.
HERO shows6,5,3,2,A for low.
rafman777 doesn't show [ As, Qh, Kd, Ad ]a pair of Aces.
HERO wins $209.95 USD from the main pot with a flush, Ace high.
HERO wins Lo ($209.95 USD) from the main pot with 6,5,3,2,A.
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