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PLO8: Massive hand, can someone analyze this pls?

  
 
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:01 AM     Post subject: PLO8: Massive hand, can someone analyze this pls? #1 (permalink)  
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All I want to know is if the flop is a call or not.
EDIT: I thought a bit about the hand and I think the pot odds are so massive it's a call with a bare nut low draw, right?

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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP3 with 3 2 9 A
UTG calls, UTG+1 raises to $2, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls $2 (pot was $7.25), CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG raises all-in $3, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls $3.5 (pot was $28.25), CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: 8 9 3 ($28, 7 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $24.5, Sidepot 1: $3.5)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets $28.5, MP2 calls all-in $12.38, Hero calls all-in $12.22, CO folds, Button calls all-in $27.4, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: $1.1 returned to UTG+2.


Results:
Final pot: $107.24
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:52 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Why are you a 25bb stack? That short I think it's an insta call.

There is already $28+$24 in the pot you can win, giving you 4:1. I think the low comes in ~1/2 the time and you probably split (unless players are that terrible then call even faster). Plus there is a small chance you hit the high. Not sure this is even close.
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 Calling $12 into a $50+ which may be even larger with people behind when you have a draw to the nut low and two pair is a must


 
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:22 AM #4 (permalink)  
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[ejaculate over your keyboard in excitement] and OMG CALL!!!1111!!!!1!one!!

this is a push at 150BB deep
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I'm buying in short - a thing I would never do in hold'em. Somehow I feel short stacking doesn't have as many disadvantages as in hold'em. I'm playing very tight, my vpip is 18-21% in 10 handed table while the other players play around half of their hands.
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I'm buying in short - a thing I would never do in hold'em. Somehow I feel short stacking doesn't have as many disadvantages as in hold'em. I'm playing very tight, my vpip is 18-21% in 10 handed table while the other players play around half of their hands.
that's absolutely wrong. i can't fully explain in the time I have, but believe it from someone more experienced.

There's a game where shortstacking is viable and it's PLO high only.

PLO8 is a game of freerolls and implied threat. If you're playing properly, having a large stack doesn't increase your variance very much.
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 I've never seen someone suggest buying in for 25BB. 40-50, ok, maybe while you're learning.

With 25BB you basically have to get all-in on every flop you catch any piece of. Your stack is awkward. Say you or someone bets 3bb pre, 2 callers. The pot is 9 and you have 21 left. What's your plan?

With 40BB you would have 35BB behind, which could be pot on flop, all-in on turn (with the all-in being a good bet relative to the pot)
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